If one side is hell bent on making sure there isn't a second state... How does this work exactly? The entire project of zionism is to erase Palestine.
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2026
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God. I'm so fucking tired of hearing liberals talk about a two state solution. Anyone still talking about it at this point is a bad-faith actor. Honestly, the people still peddling this comforting lie are almost worse than the militant zionists killing people in the West Bank. At least they're not liars.
The two state solution has been dead and buried for over a decade at this point. A supermajority of the Israeli population completely opposes it. October 7 put the last nail in the coffin of any prospect of the idea being a viable position in Israeli politics. And they've elected governments that have spent decades working tirelessly to make sure a two state solution is impossible. Like seriously, wake the fuck up people. From here. Seriously, if you think you're making a nation in this Swiss cheese of a region, you're smoking crack. Look at this shit!:
Liberals in the West are still clinging to the two state solution fantasy because it's politically convenient for them. The truth is at this point the West Bank and Gaza have been fully occupied. The areas the Palestinians nominally govern are no more independent and viable as an independent state or states than the bantustans on which Israel's colonial model was built were. The "West Bank" doesn't exist anymore. Instead there's just dozens of small enclaves, each isolated from each other and completely incapable of serving as a unified state. Israel has deliberately made a Palestinian state impossible.
Liberals however still cling to the fantasy. They do this because it keeps them from ever having to make any hard calls. They can pretend that they're working with the Israelis towards an eventual peace. And it's conveniently far enough in the future that no real actions are required today.
Anyone still talking about a two state solution in 2026 is a clown. A literal fool. There are only three potential futures for Israel and Palestine at this point. (I'll leave out the campist fantasy of Israel being destroyed. They have hydrogen bombs; they're not going anywhere.) Those three possibilities are:
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A perpetual apartheid state with Jewish Israelis ruling over a stateless class of enslaved Arabs confined into reservations a la the US's Indian reservations.
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An Israeli final solution where the Palestinian population is driven out to surrounding countries, executed in death camps, or sterilized on a mass scale.
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A unified state where both Israelis and Palestinians live as free and full citizens of the country.
These are the only three possibilities. Anyone with a conscience should be pushing for possibility three. If you're still masturbating to the fantasy of a two state solution in 2026, you're advocating for possibilities one or two.
There is only one position people in the West with a conscience should be pushing: full Israeli citizenship of the Palestinian population. No more Apartheid. You don't get the land without the people. You wanted the West Bank. Fine. It's yours. And now you have to offer full citizenship to all the people on that land. Does this mean Israel can no longer be a majority Jewish state? If someone doesn't like that, too fucking bad. They should have thought about that before they went and conquered a bunch of land people were living on.
One nation. One people. One country, free and equal for all, from the river to the sea. The religious descendants of the ancient Israelites (the Jewish Israelis) united in one nation with the genetic descendants of the ancient Israelites (the Palestinians.) One nation with justice and equality for all.
That should be the only thing we're pushing for. Anything else is just a fantasy at this point. Israel isn't going to be disbanded. Palestinians aren't getting their own state. But full equality is something that can be pushed for, and it's something that's been successfully achieved by international pressure before, namely in South Africa. We need to be demanding our governments make this the only policy they will accept. And until Israel agrees to full equality, we should cut off all diplomatic relationships with the Apartheid government.
Feel better? Palestinians “aren’t getting their own state”? Like… the one they had before we unceremoniously located the Zionists in Palestinian land? There’s no discussion here. Israel is a genocidal government owed nothing. Sky daddy privileges don’t count.
This is what I'm talking about campist fantasy. If you read my post as supporting Israel, you need to take reading comprehension classes. Or at the very least stop actively trying to read the worst take you can in the writings of others.
Like, I'm sorry. But reality check. Israel is a nation with a thermonuclear arsenal. Owing, deserving, privilege, etc are irrelevant concepts here.
Again, I try to live in the real world. You're living in some fantasy dream world where millions of Isrealis are just going to give up their homes, voluntarily become stateless and homeless, and go...where exactly? You can say, "fuck them. That's not my problem. Zionists deserve nothing." And morally, you would be right. But you won't actually be doing anything productive. They can point at their nukes and say your concerns aren't their problem. Millions of people armed with nukes are not just going to make themselves stateless.
Again, there are three possibilities for the future of the Palestinians. If you're still pushing for a two state solution, you are actively hurting the cause of Palestinian rights, clinging to a fantasy that has been dead for a generation. Wake up. Sober up. Face the music. Start working for actual progress. The best case scenario for the future of the Palestinians is full integration and citizenship into a multi-ethnic multi-religious united Israeli state. The only other possibilities for the Palestinian population are genocide or perpetual apartheid. You are on the side of genocide and endless apartheid by refusing to acknowledge the reality of the world.
Hard agree. The two state solution was always a smoke screen for Israel to be like "Okay, we'll give you you're own state BUT ONLY IF the following impossible to agree to or maintain stipulations are met." Then, once the impossible stipulations are not met, Israel says "You didn't meet the stipulations, we're resuming war/annexation". Rinse and repeat until the genocide situation we have now.
You can advocate for Palestinian armed resistance, but the ONLY time that has ever been viable is when the armed resistance outguns their oppressors. As you stated, there is ragtag resistance that is going to outgun nuclear weapons. Palestine needs global support to resist at this point, and that's unlikely, again, because Israel has nukes and the backing of America.
The best case scenario is Israel and Palestine get the same outcome as South Africa following the fall of apartheid. I don't see that happening unless Israel loses America's support.
A two state is dead. A one state with equal rights
Make both states inclusive to all religions and combine them, oh wait... we recreated Palestine, i wonder why it's such a bad idea though