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[META] Are paid for, closed source projects, being advertised on this community, appropriate? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by breadsmasher@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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A number of brand new accounts have popped up shilling their paid for applications.

Is this within the rules? Is the community happy with this? Could mods clarify this in the rules?

Either allowing advertising, or banning it entirely.

my point is - there is a difference between an open source homegrown project that might be useful, vs closed source paid for projects from brand new accounts

some replies are misunderstanding, somehow.

I am against

brand new accounts who:

first post is a brand new project
project is closed source
project will cost money
is asking for free testing
the post is literally an advertisement

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[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I know your funning / snarking here but...do you know about YaCy?

https://github.com/yacy/yacy_search_server

I only learned about it myself a month or so ago and have been thinking about incorporating it into a project of mine (probably overkill - found a more elegant solution) but YaCy sounds like something you might like.

Also on this topic: I keep seeing meta-crawlers (Degoog, SearXNG, 4get etc) be promoted but...they aren't exactly search engines. They're aggregators that can (and do) get limited. Cool but not "hosting my own search engine" is that was the intent.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

do you know about YaCy?

I do know YaCy. YaCy can use peers in the YaCy network for search results. I've never got consistently good results with YaCy tho. It's been a while sing I experimented with YaCy. Perhaps it has gotten better and I should revisit. I do run Searxng, but that is an aggregator and I'm still using an external search engine, just cutting out all the telemetry and metrics. My point was, selfhosters do not live in a bubble. We, like everyone else, depend on services that a closed source, and out of our control. Sure, we try to be as private, secure and anonymous as possible, however at times you got to do a little dirt. Making money off an app or service seems to be an sticky wicket with some. Yet FOSS is full of apps that require a subscription to unlock more or different features.

Buying an opensource app to unlock features. Dev team gets paid.
Buying an app for your phone: Dev team gets paid.

I honestly don't see much of a difference, other than one is definitely opensource, while the latter may not be, or is a combination of both. That seems to make the defining difference to some. Not all selfhosters align with the same creed.