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[META] Are paid for, closed source projects, being advertised on this community, appropriate? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by breadsmasher@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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A number of brand new accounts have popped up shilling their paid for applications.

Is this within the rules? Is the community happy with this? Could mods clarify this in the rules?

Either allowing advertising, or banning it entirely.

my point is - there is a difference between an open source homegrown project that might be useful, vs closed source paid for projects from brand new accounts

some replies are misunderstanding, somehow.

I am against

brand new accounts who:

first post is a brand new project
project is closed source
project will cost money
is asking for free testing
the post is literally an advertisement

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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally? I have zero interest in that happening. As I've said before, I consider myself the janitor not the dictator.

It would be selfhosting related, of primary relevance as a lot of folks use it still despite.... everything plex has done in the past several years, and I would not be able to consider it a rule violation as of now.

There would need to be a new rule or a change to the existing.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right ..

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So lets get specific on rules, and break it down and turn your post into one:

Closed source commercial applications may not be posted from an account less than 7 days old or they will be removed.

Now what about mostly open but with a paywall on features (so partially closed)?

I'm happy to have a rule change here, I just think it needs to be a clear rule and community supported. If you'd like I can make it a pinned post to be voted/commented on.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the wording is reasonable. appreciate the effort!

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I tweaked things a bit to be more about percentage of comments/posts, which I think may be a better approach, in a newly posted sticky so we can memorialize the change. Its not implemented yet, and we can go back to an age-of-account approach, but I think % participation may make more sense.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

participation as a requirement is a good idea, actually providing first before trying to take