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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

ok ill be the one to say it then: the NSA are fascists. the NSA is evil.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What is your definition of Fascist, here?

It seems to get tossed around at everything, these days. Not a fan if the NSA either, nor the Patriot Act, either.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

fascism is capitalism showing its teeth, like what trump is doing more overtly now. one part of it involves enforcing a bolder and more baldfaced surveillance/police state.

the NSA is literally one of the intelligence arms of said surveillance state. they help manipulate people, find and disappear dissidents, suppress resistance and such. not unlike a few other 3 letter agencies.

they've been quacking like fascists way before trump, they have feathers like fascists and swim like fascists. hence why i call it fascist.

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fascism is capitalism showing its teeth, like what trump is doing more overtly now

AFAIK that is not the definition of fascism

But I've seen a TikTok of someone who is studying politcal doctrines (IDR if their level was Major or PHD) and what is currently going on was ticking off all the boxes

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

there are many, sometimes conflicting definitions. this one sums it up.

i focus on the police state and militarism part of it because thats what the NSA is for.

and if it ticks all the damn boxes, thats wtf it is. your phd person on tiktok is probably referring to the 12 early signs. its been ticking them for decades now.

but please don't rely on tiktok to get informed and read up on it, regardless of what qualifications tiktokers claim to have. its slop that barely clears the basics at best.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lol i really cringed at that phrasing about "good people doing bad things". Theyre literally fascists doing fascism to advance their interests, it really doesn't matter if they are vegan and have dogs.

[–] spv@lemmy.spv.sh 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the quote in question is over a decade old...

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So? The US was still spying on it's citizens and murdering people abroad at that time.

[–] spv@lemmy.spv.sh 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i assumed you were making a comment on the modern (fascist) administration. there's a difference between shitty politics and fascism. :P

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

covert fascism. its more than shitty politics when they are murdering millions abroad, starving tens of millions more (including their own citizens) suppressing protesters violently.. this sort of thing.

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Je was a contractor for the NSA, sis you think he was going to say anything different?