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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 120 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We're already in a class war. They're winning.

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They only call it a class war when poor people fight back.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

Without fighting back its just oppression

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Warren Buffett even said that the rich were waging war on the poor back in 2013. Even then he said the rich were already winning

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This might seem tangentially unrelatied, but I remember a conversation from earlier this week where a group of coworkers started talking about Taylor Swift and her upcoming marriage

Steeped in internet culture, I thought it was common knowledge that she is a narcissistic piece of shit, and that her marriage is at best a cynical ploy to stay relevant and at worst a sincere emotional attempt to conform to the standards of feminity. The consensus in my community is also that Kelsey is absolutely not into her at all, is probably cheating on her already, and the marriage is doomed, and G*d have mercy on the soul of whatever child is born from that union if it ever receives one.

So I blurt out, "I wonder what the odds are on her divorcing?"

And everyone stopped talking to stare at me, like, "What an awful thing to say," before continuing to talk, unaware that the conversation they were having was the result of millions of dollars worth of PR, and very much like Taylor Swift is a highly relatable human being and not a scarecrow stuffed with currency.

So it's not a class war yet, more like an unresisted occupation of zombieland.

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I've lost so many "left leaning" friends talking about politics instead of "insert show name here". We are going to hurtle ourselves into another Holocaust

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd look at you weird too.

One, you sound far more invested in it than they are and they are probably just passing time talking about it.

Two, you're making a lot of assumptions about a relationship you're not in and have zero intimate knowledge of. Even if that were true it sounds like you are again, way too invested in it.

You can be against capitalism and all that as it is without looking cynically on absolutely everything, especially something so fundamentally unimportant as a celebrity marriage. Jmho.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Talking about the phony lives of billionaires like they're your friends: normal

Pointing out that the rich are not normal: weird

This is exactly the problem I'm talking about.

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If you're crazy and rich, you're called, "eccentric". I hope some lifelong schizophrenic homeless guy wins the biggest lottery ever known to man. From crazy to eccentric overnight

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A corrupt system operates with the consent of the oppressed. We are all each other's jailers.

Free your mind, coppertop.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Or stop acting like a weirdo obsessed with something nonsensical.

How about how we don't have proper healthcare because of billionaires, continued subsistence of Israel, etc? Who gives a flying fuck about some dumb wedding?

You'd get further with your goals if you learned to talk like a rational person. I would bet you feel great though about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is though which might be the more important thing to you.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're not seeing the whole war.

We don't tax billionaires because they are Wise and Good People, otherwise they wouldn't be rich!

Until billionaires are seen as the mentally ill individuals they are, they will continue to take over governments, benefit themselves, and send us to early deaths to grow their wealth.

And yet here you are arguing with someone on your side so the Taylor Swift can continue to be America's Sweetheart unmolested. Doesn't that make you a little bit curious about underlying social and psycological gears that run the machine?

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No....not at all.

Believe it or not, I can carry on a conversation about something trivial without having to interject politics about it all. Again- it's a dumb non-story and I, someone who is online enough, saw maybe 1-2 articles about it in my feed and went on by. It's not a big deal and regular people won't see it as a big deal either. Ie. this wedding is not something that at all is affecting their day to day life because it's a one off and will be forgotten in a week's time.

You'd have better luck convincing people that she is bad because her private jet burns so much fuel and releases so much CO2 into the air which is causing this insane heat and rapid weather changes, more tornadoes in areas they previously weren't in, etc. etc. Not downtalking and making up fantasies about a wedding (which, most people are far more likely to have a wedding of their own and attend many so maybe attacking the institution of marriage and the fun of a wedding is not the play.) You'd also have more luck saying we shouldn't be reliant on billionaire's generosity (like her donating to whatever cause, maybe wiping out medical debt or whatever she did) if we just taxed all billionaires so this was done all the time.

See what I mean? Catch more flies with honey.

I honestly equate this to some trekkie going up to a random person that goes on and on about how it's the best TV series ever- no one asked and they certainly aren't going to be super receptive. Talking to people and slowly convincing them of your position and the righteousness of it is a skill and a necessity, not some nice add-on.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely we will win the class war with diligent and assiduous tone policing.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're really intent on being right. Maybe go touch some grass and get off the internet for a while. Not everything is worth arguing about.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, my life is boring and miserable and making everything a manichean struggle between freedom and slavery is sort of the only thing keeping me going right now.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hobbies really help with that sort of thing. Nobody has to stay miserable. You'll feel better just making friends and going outside, even if it's just for a walk around the block.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I want to laugh, but I'm afraid it would be translated as cruelty when it is really just astonishment. "Just" making friends, as if making a single real friend hasn't been my main life goal for the past 5 years, that always founders on the rocks of people's casual indifference to platonic frienship as a concept.

But I am looking for a new job, which will help a little bit, and I found a good place to share my guitar playing with other poeple.

And today I'm sitting by the screen door as the dog looks out into the rain for squirrels and bunnies and learning a song off an LP on clarinet. I haven't pulled out my clarinet since I had some teeth removed several months ago, and I didn't play it for very long before that. Today's song is Buttermilk Skies by Hoagy Carmichael from the Columbia House collection, "Songs of Long Ago and Far Away". I think it's in Gb, which so far has taken me about 20 minutes to remember. Don't have much hope for getting much above the center of that middle octave today.

Consider my nervous system regulated for now.

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its not a war until both sides fight. When only one side fights, its called other things, or nothing at all, once the deed is done.