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[–] HrabiaVulpes 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If not for the gulf stream (a constant sea water movement) Europe would be much colder and Northern America much warmer. I wonder if climate warming could potentially stop this gulf stream

[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation) is now creaking under the weight of all that Pacific heat in the ocean. If that goes - which is looking increasingly likely within the next 25-50 years - then sayonara Gulf Stream and Europe can look forward to what's likely to be extremely sub-zero winter temperatures and soaring summer temperatures.

I'm in the UK and I've bought an extra pair of mitts and a hand fan, so I'll be laughing

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just to be clear a collapsing AMOC is projected to slow the gulf stream but not stop it.

It's still very very bad though.

[–] LumiNocta@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What are we talking about when you say extremely sub zero. As in -20c or colder?

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I was flabbergasted the first time I realized just how far north Europe is, compared to North America.

Paris is at 48° 51' N, significantly further north than Toronto (43° N), Montreal (45° N). London is at 51°N 30', which is further north than Vancouver (49° N), and just slightly further north than Calgary (51°N).

Even southern European cities like Ibiza (39° N) are at comparable latitudes to northern American cities like Philadelphia (40°N) or even New York (41°N).

If Europe starts seeing climate comparable to similar latitudes in North America, that would represent a huge change from the recorded history.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's just put it this way. It is what was thought to have triggered previous ice ages.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Has an ice age ever started during a current ice age before?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There have been many interglacial periods.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very serious topic about dying earth, climate change, etc

"yo we have the same cake day!"

Idk why, but this made me laugh too much

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

A little whimsy to make the world more bearable. Idk where I heard the advice, but:

When you walk past a flower, stop and appreciate it. The weight of your worries will wait patiently, so take your time.

[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Exactly that, yes. We rely on the Gulf Stream for our mild climate so, if that goes, we get the extremes in both summer and winter

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

-20c is nothing. It'll be a lot worse than that.

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Europe won't just be colder, the weather will be more extreme in all directions. Hotter summers and colder winters, with stronger storms due to more extreme temperature variances. It will be a fun time all year round for everyone.

[–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Time to figure out how to put the inside of a building six months away from its outside...

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I'm just glad the past few winters were so mild here in romania the past few (5?) years. I dread a really cold winter.

[–] HrabiaVulpes 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, it will be interesting!

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Idk if rhetorical question but there's evidence (iirc, an atypically cold patch of water off of....Greenland?) that the gulf stream may already be breaking down.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also crops. Nobody is talking about the crops

You're talking about the crops, silly, therefore you are wrong

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The peasants here are talking about them all the fucking time.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just move Europe to the west coast of the south pole and it will drag Italy up the scooter hole of Antarctica, and then we will have the power of Star Gate: Atlantis in our own pants

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I definitely smell toast. Is somebody making toast!?

I put an hourglass stuck in my ass when the before was it that doesn't but do it he the way it go now