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Democratic members of Congress who were part of a scuffle with law enforcement officers at an ICE facility in New Jersey may face arrests, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed to Axios Saturday.

Why it matters: It would be a major escalation in the Trump administration's arrests of politicians and other public servants, including the mayor of Newark and a judge in Milwaukee.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

The "blue MAGA" usually refers to tone-deaf centrist Democrats who maybe socially progressive, but economically on the right. They refuse to acknowledge the ramifications of jobs outsourcing, without offering alternative jobs to replace the outsourced one, and then call the working class -- who by the way used to vote Democrat-- as "stupid, imbecile and red neck Hillbillies". Blue MAGA are also NIMBYs who tend to object to building more affordable housing because it will bring down the property value in their area.

In other words, blue MAGA believe in social justice, but think economic justice is a step too far. The working class who try to voice their genuine economic concerns, are scoffed aside as idiots and condescended by elitist blue MAGA. And then they wonder why the working class turned to right. The blue MAGA (let's just call them neoliberals because that's what they are actually called in the rest of the world), are just as complicit in the rise of fascism. The neoliberals don't want their precious stocks and corporate lobby money touched and would rather see Trump and Republicans remain in office, than actually return to keeping in touch with the working class.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

And the “MAGA” IN ALL CAPS part comes from where?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (6 children)

From the way they act like a cult around their preferred political party, similar to the non-blue variety, and attacks anyone that criticises the Democrats regardless of the validity of the criticism. They're a vocal minority, but part of the DNC support base, nonetheless.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So a minority that doesn’t claim to “make America great again” and is really only called out for not being progressive enough… democrats?

They are a blue make America great again group cause why? Did they storm the capital, wear hats and promote what? Is it cult like because they disagree with you? You haven’t described a cult, more like a difference of opinion that could include anyone old enough and not hippy enough. Not the same as red hatted maga crowd.

This sounds like a stupid label not anything descriptive…

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man, do you only take labels at face value? There are reasons for labels to exists outside of the direct meaning of the word. If this is news to you, you're either a naive idiot or acting like one to defend a stupid group. Next you're gonna tell me Elon Musk is not a Nazi because he's not from Germany or gassing Jews?

It's also funny how you call it a simple difference of opinion when that group is the one that can't accept a simple difference of opinion and attacks every criticism of the Democrats even when it is completely warranted. Talk about irony.

In your desperation to defend them, you make two completely inane points that doesn't hold up to even the simplest of scrutiny. Learn to be better.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Are labels just stupid pieces of tape? So they have any value or are we just saying “maga” for no good reason?

Do you take them at any value?

Is any different of opinion the same as maga? I’m not desperate to defend anyone I'm pointing out how desperate it seems you are to difference them… to point this this out… you sound very desperate to call others “maga” for your own purpose not theirs…

You sound more crazy by labeling others… you sound crazier by doing that than actual magas…

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Your English also seems to be slipping a lot in your desperation. Might want to fix that.

Do you take them at any value?

What the heck does this even mean?

Is any different of opinion the same as maga?

Do you have reading comprehension problems that you're still trying to claim I am labeling people with a different opinion as MAGA? This all sounds like you're arguing in bad faith by putting words in my mouth.

you sound very desperate to call others “maga” for your own purpose not theirs…

Firstly, you seem to be confused or ignoring my whole point about Blue MAGA not being the same as MAGA. Secondly, I was just telling you the definition you asked for, not putting labels on anyone.

you sound crazier by doing that than actual magas…

And here you have no problem labelling me crazier than MAGA while attacking anyone comparing some of the DNC supporter's attitude with that of MAGA. Sure doesn't sound like you're desperately defending them or anything.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

My English has nothing to do with this… you assign a name not me… you call folks maga with zero meaning that’s not me and you’re the one with zero reasons

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

You're barely making any sense now.

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