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EDIT : Might as well throw agnosticism in there too.

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Over simplification-

Secularism - separation of religion from government

Atheism - belief that there is no God/God's or afterlife and sometimes disputes/argues against the existence

Ant-theism - actively working against religion

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

Atheism isn't necessarily a belief in there not being a deity, and more of a lack of belief in a deity. It's the default position that everyone is born as. For example, I don't actively believe there's a god or gods because there's no evidence to prove there is, but I can't say for sure that there isn't, because it's an unfalsifiable claim. Since there's no evidence, I have no reason to believe there is any, so I don't. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, after all.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t that third one when you believe that god is an ant?

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus grabs us with his mandibles and rotates his thorax while plunging his stinger of love repeatedly into our flesh. Praise be.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I consider myself anti-theist. I'm an agnostic atheist because I have seen no reason, evidence, or argument suggesting the existence of any god. It seems far more likely that god is vain human projection and wishful thinking.

Since god is evidently a dangerous falsehood, of course we should keep theism far away from important decision-making. I yearn for a world where grown adults don't pretend that magic is real. It's doing more harm than most people can see. Innocent people suffer and die every day for the baseless beliefs of others.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I consider myself anti-theist. I’m an agnostic atheist

Since god is evidently a dangerous falsehood

How are you agnostic (unsure if god exists or not) , then saying "god is a dangerous falsehood"?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

How are you agnostic (unsure if god exists or not) , then saying "god is a dangerous falsehood"?

That's why I used "evidently". We have zero evidence suggesting the existence of any god. We have endless evidence that humans make shit up, and that the specific lie that a god exists has led to needless death and suffering.

I am an agnostic atheist willing to die fighting any selfish, stupid person who pretends there is a god.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's not what agnostic means.

Atheism is theism plus the prefix "a".

Agnosticism is gnosticism plus the prefix "a".

Gnosticism is the belief that knowledge can be revealed to us (e.g. from a divine source), in addition to being discovered. Therefore agnosticism is the lack of such belief in revelation leaving us only with discovery.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This depends on how you define both atheism and agnosticism

(Gnosis is the ancient Greek word for “knowledge“ and agnosis the ancient Greek word for the lack of knowledge/the opposite of knowledge)

Another definition of agnostic atheism is one who does not believe in a God, but cannot know for sure there is no God, because such a thing is unknowable (as one cannot disprove a negative), whereas gnostic atheism is one who does not believe in a God, and believes they do know there is no God for lack of any evidence, or due to some other evidence which they believe proves such a thing impossible.

This goes into more detail:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

As with any belief system (or lack thereof) it can become a tangled mess of epistemology and philosophy and even attempts at tautology.

[–] diverging@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

Atheism doesn't require a belief that no gods exist.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

According to wikipedia: Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion.

Separation of church and state is an important facet of it, but not all of society is government.