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[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.social 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime looked to the United States racial policies and legal models as inspiration, particularly in the crafting of the Nuremberg Laws. Hitler himself praised the United States in his manifesto Mein Kampf for its racist immigration and nationality policies, and Nazi lawyers explicitly referenced American race law as a precedent for their own legislation. So, yeah, historically the United States is different from what Hollywood shows (the shock, I know).

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Not to be that guy but that's literally closing in on almost 100 years ago.

The US might still have race issues but the US is definitely the most racially conscious country you could probably live in at the same time. Most countries don't have such a variety of cultures mixed together.

Just kind of an odd thing for you to throw out in the context of this picture. What about this post makes you think "ah yes, racism!"

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Just look at Japan. It's been 100 years since they joined the wrong side of WWII, in part for racist reasons. Today, as a culture and generally speaking, not only are they horribly racist, they don't even acknowledge it as a problem. Even among Asians, they consider themselves the most superior Asian (read: whitest) race. Look at how they treat Koreans or Chinese throughout history.

China continues to try to purge Uyghurs. In fact, anti-indigenous racism seems to be an unfortunately global concept. Rwanda committed one of the worst genocides in history, purging a culture so similar to their own that it defies reason, and could only happen through decades of re-enforcement. A majority of European countries are so culturally isolated from each other than they barely understand what racism is.

A country that understands where the racism exists can take the first steps to fight against it. Most countries aren't even that far.

And yet, countries like the US and Canada are huge melting pots that understand what racism is, and has fought for centuries to push it back. Has the US solved racism? Fuck no! But, the topic is constantly in the foreground, always talked about, and one of the primary drivers of politics.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Rwanda committed one of the worst genocides in history, purging a culture so similar to their own that it defies reason, and could only happen through decades of re-enforcement

Read: Belgians, for anyone who doesn't know. The Belgians encouraged the minority Tutsi's to believe they were god's gift to Rwanda, and the majority Hutus to believe they were peasant farmers and enforced this via identity cards stating so. Then the Belgian's relinquished control, but not before telling the Hutus to actively seek revenge to balance things. You couldn't make this up.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

They were literally the same people, separated only by caste.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the most racially conscious country

Just like the politicians who always think about protecting the minors?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 days ago

If you think pedophilia is strictly an American thing you're fooling yourself.

But politicians don't decide our culture. So not sure what you're on about trying to mental gymnastics into some random topic. The point still stands find another culture with more respect and understanding of each other's cultures.

It's really easy to point out the conflicts but millions of us live everyday together completely fine falling in love with each other's food, music, religion, family.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you think the US is "racially conscious" then you've just fallen for the propaganda

The US is incredibly racist.

I have to travel to the US regularly.

I'd rather not

It's an awful place, and at its very core it's built on discrimination, exploitation, hate, theft, cruelty, genocide, bigotry and stupidity

But, these things are are somehow celebrated when they should be a source of shame

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I do extended stay travel internationally for work. I am frequently in other countries and there is no shortage of their racism and discrimination.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree

I've lived in several countries, and I travel a bit

There's racism all over the world, but it's the US where it stands out in such stark contrast to the myth of the country

The indigenous population were slaughtered, the country was stolen, it was built with slavery, and yet, there's such pride in the fairytale that it was created for people to be free, and that everyone is equal

That stupid fucker Deft, or whatever his name is, is pissy because deep down he knows that he benefits from a system that places a white guy above others and he knows that in a truly level playing field he'd be found wanting

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 1 points 2 days ago

Wait... What? Americans aren't aware of how the country was founded? Or slavery's part in it's past?

Like Greeks and Italians don't deny theirs? How about Spain, France, Portugal? Mayans, Incans, Aztec? French Canadians?

Let's talk about the Han Chinese, Taiwan. Japan and Korea...

Man no one is sorry and they all downplay their past. Cut the shit

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ludicrous perspective.

I literally live here. In an area that is seeing some of the most diversity and a ton of immigrants, I work in a kitchen and have worked with people from all over the world from Thailand to Senegal, Venezuela to Iran, India to Australia.

I've had this conversation of American and racism for literally decades in my life of working with these people both having to inform them of inappropriate actions and just general discussions. There are communities from all over the world here.

A huge reason people think the US is racist is because they watch the media and think our constant conversation of race suggests it's a huge fucking issue. Most countries do not have the diversity our government has shown and the rise in racism in the US is because of this bullshit fear of "rEpLaCemEnt thEoRy" from the growing diversity.

Every country has racism, most don't talk about it especially at a level where their government has constant calls to face the music about it.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Which city?

I have lived in the big cities of countries that are fundamentally racist all over the world

Of course there are major centres with great diversity, but outside of those places, 'Murica is a racist dump, and even within the more diverse and tolerant parts of that awful country, it's still racist as fuck

I'm going to leap to the conclusion that you're white.

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 1 points 3 days ago

I still love your user name. I too am a huge fan.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the people might be racist, but there aren't that many racist laws still on the books

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The laws don't have to be racist

The enforcers certainly are

Anyway, the guy I was arguing with is a dickhead, and a stupid one at that

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why didn't you answer where you're from then?

Because you're lying.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago

Pot calling the kettle black. And you travel here 18 times a year?

You're such a little fraud lmfao go get a job bro

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You've definitely never been to this country.

I couldn't believe what an absolute dweeb comment this was so I had to check your post history 90% is just pissing and raging about America. You better be paid to spread this divisiveness cause otherwise you're one pathetic bastard.

And yes I am white. What country are you from?

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No the U.S. is still very much racist. Are you only thinking about like Seattle or something? And conveniently forgetting about not just the rural south, but rural north as well?? Michigan, especially the U.P., Wisconsin, and Indiana are pretty racist.

The major cities in each state are more liberal of course, but the rural folk usually aren't. How can Wisconsin be a swing state when only like 4 counties vote Democrat lol. Yeah yeah "land doesn't vote" but that's their "territory". Your car breaks down anywhere you have to call them. If anything happens you're at their mercy.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I giggled at how is response was denial

The fact that I challenged his views meant that he had to create a scenario where I was lying about spending time in the US

I have been over there six times in the last eighteen months alone. When I'm there I'm living like a local, not staying in hotels in the big cities

This guy is white, but seems to be the type of white guy who refuses to acknowledge that he enjoys inherent privilege merely because he is a white male

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Notice this guy didn't answer where he's from?

Because he knows his country has a way more disgusting and open problem with racism. Thinking me being white legitimizes my opinion is clear you just know American media and have never been here.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a crush on me?

I reckon you have a crush on me

You seem extremely hung up on what I think of you and where I'm from

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago

So you're saying the rural part where the smaller populations reside is racist. While the majority of the population isn't racist?

Yeah. That's what I'm saying too.

I've lived on both coasts and in the south in one of the most "racist" states.

It's bullshit. The super hick South people you're thinking of genuinely hate the KKK and white supremacists. They're defensive about what they see as their culture -- owning guns, having their stupid flag.

The biggest racist thing in America is racial profiling which isn't a white-only thing. It's a cultural thing. And if you think other countries don't racially profile it's probably because they don't have the population diversity to do so.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

'Murica was founded in genocide, an ideal that white people are inherently superior, and dishonesty

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