The irony is that in 2028, a state with the same population as Canada might hold a referendum about leaving America. This trade dispute just might push California over the edge, and I am not talking about earthquakes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/24/country-of-california-secession-newsom-trump/77907859007/

and more recently

https://theharvardpoliticalreview.com/calexit-california-independence/

If America is so out of control and beyond the reach of the Rule of Law and the Constitution that it can elect Trump (recall that he is considered to be potentially a traitor to the Constitution by the Supreme Court), then it is definitely within the realm of possibility that California could separate.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m referring to outstanding unfunded liabilities. I never referred to the budgeting process.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People aren't liabilities. Thinking this way is why US doesn't really have healthcare. Healthcare is a service, not a liability.

Do you consider infrastructure and the legal system to be liabilities because the budget of these things scale with the population size? Or are they just things the government is supposed to do?

So anyway, I don't want to live in a country that thinks my health is a liability.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Morally you are right but fiscal reality is, both governments are going to take on a lot of unfunded liabilities that don’t mix well with their current financial structure. Making the talk of absorbing parts of Canada into the US or Canada taking on California or other states a moot point. No population is going to give up their current benefits.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I think you're confusing countries with businesses. Any analysis from the perspective of a country being a business is inherently wrong.

Thinking money is real and people are abstractions has things totally the wrong way around.

If what you were saying were true, there would still be a separate West Germany and East Germany.

The reasons for Canada not being a part of the US or California separating from the US or it not making sense for California to be part of Canada has nothing to do with liabilities.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like an accountant.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago

No, just a realist.