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Iran has consistently professed a goal of eradicating israel. Nuclear weapons are the method.
If you loudly declared that you wanted to genocide the British, and started developing nuclear weapons, it wouldn’t be too long before you were prevented from doing so.
Then why tear up a deal that would've kept them from acquiring nukes?
So you have a pretext to start a war with them.
I dunno, but I'm guessing it's the same logic that lead to him declaring that the deal (CUSMA) he negotiated during his first term was the worst deal in history.
Because the dude is a dumbass who tore up agreements he made, idk if you'll see much opposition to that here.
To attack and not get nuked
So he would have an excuse to bomb them.
Same bullshit GW used in Iraq, with the support of all the US media.
It's in Epstein emails, the plan to bomb Iran is 9 years old.
Aside from those in the nuclear club not wanting to share power, nuclear proliferation causes a lot of problems. It creates more flashpoints for escalating into a world-ending nuclear exchange or for non-state actors to obtain devices for terrorism, etc. The world stood at the brink for a while and decided decades ago the ultimate goal is to reduce the number of nuclear arms.
On the flip side, this is why the recent-ish invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Venezuela, the intervention in Libya, and China's saber-rattling against Taiwan--among others--are serious matters. It teaches regimes around the world you will only be safe if you have a nuclear deterrent. North Korea applied that lesson, and they won't be the last at this rate.
And that's why we know Iran has no nukes
The more countries with a nuclear deterrent, the less advantage countries who already wield nuclear power have.
Iran also explicitly regards the US as its primary enemy(regime change says what) and has been historically unwilling to kowtow to US demands, which really upsets imperialists.
The more countries with a nuclear deterrent,
…. The more likely someone is to use them.
While the current nuclear powers haven’t always behaved well, the last thing we need is higher likelihood of someone using nuclear weapons. I do t co do e the attack nor believe the stated justification but I agree that it would be bad for more countries to be able to use nuclear weapons
the only time nukes have been used is when 1 side had them, it would seem the more forces that have them the less likely they are to be used
That is really naive
…. The more likely someone is to use them.
There is only one country on this planet with nukes that has used them, on civilian targets, twice.
“mutually Assured Destruction” may not yet have destroyed humanity but it’s insane to think it’s desirable.
The Iranian government identifies Israel as its number 1 enemy. The USA is second and it's because the USA has historically protected Israel. Antisemitism is an ancient drug.
I was with you until the last statement; it’s not antisemitism; pretty much everyone in the mid east is “Semitic”. It’s being against a nation who lives on land that they believe is rightfully theirs, persecuting and outright genociding people of a shared sect of their religion.
They don’t want to nuke Israel, because they want the land; they don’t want to kill all Jews (other than the far right agitators that seem to pop up everywhere), they want to destroy the nation of Israel.
This makes things a bit messy because if Israel ceased to be a country and Palestine took over tomorrow, Iran would rejoice, but then they’d likely try expanding into surrounding countries, and at least some would want to absorb Palestine into Iran.
They’d also have to come to grips with the US, who has been the great satan for two generations now. Iran has defined itself in relation to the US in the meantime.
Meanwhile, most people living in Iran identify themselves as Persian, and don’t consider this their fight. And the Persian diaspora is pretty large.
White European colonists are not semitic.
Iranians/Persians are white European colonists?
Israelis
Oh boy. Ill make this as short as I can because I really ought to be off to bed.
Nuclear weapons, since the beginning, foment distrust. Neocolonialism, the Red Scare, and Fuckiteering breeds enemies and blowback. And, Iran, having oil and a spotty history relating to the superpower/hegemon that is America, has denied and actively worked against the "Manifest Destiny" of American supremacy in the world and — regionally — Israeli supremacy in Palestine.
Since 1945, the United States has:
developed nuclear weapons
used nuclear weapons at war
tested nuclear weapons at "peace"
conducted a Cold War against "non-aligned" states — including Iran for a time — and communists and people who America regards as "other"
supported Israel as an independent state despite the questionable (read: ethnic cleansing) methods employed to declare the state
overthrown Iran's democratically elected government and installed a Shah, "friendly" to US interests and brutal to Iranian people
developed the Hydrogen bomb
overthrown several other democratically elected governments, prosecuted wars and police actions across 4 continents...
And that barely gets us to the mid 1950s.
By 1979, Iran got fed up. JFK's words, "those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" apply here. There was a revolution, they booted the Shah and took some Americans hostage for 444 days. Somehow, an Islamist faction rose from the confusion and seized power. Marjane Sartapi's graphic novel, Persepolis, helped me with this part.
In the cocaine-addled '80s, the States said, "fuckit," and started paying Saddam Hussein to go to war with Iran. Iran held the line for 8 years. After that, Hussein became the enemy instead of a friend, Iran sat back and watched the States undertake Gulf Wars I and II under the Bush family's rule. Meanwhile, the Israeli people have lived in fear of Iran's support for Hezbollah and Palestinians. Harsh words, and a few thousand rocket attacks, against the State of Israel and America's support by AIPAC are part of the puzzle. And of course, Aljazeera conuterspinning the American narrative from its HQ in Qatar is also a threat.
In the end, Iran DID develop the capacity yo make nuclear energy which they claim is for electricity. US doesn't trust anyone they don't control, and haven't since they achieved schoolyard bully status back in '45. Israel also has, but refuses to talk about, its nuclear weapons, which are a threat to all of the countries Israel has attacked (some of whom attacked Israel in the '50s abd '60s). Again, a paucity of trust.
Since about Y2K, Iran's leadership has declared a Fatwa against nuclear weapons and swears they will never possess them.
There have been at least two Palestinian uprisings against Israel (2000-2005 and the Al-Aqsa Flood of 2023). There was a period of secular society-led protest that is often overlooked. Hamas changed the charter. All actions have been met with tacit or overt Iranian support for Palestinian resistance. That said, the heavy-handed actions of this Israeli government, and several governments back to 2000, have only made the prospect of peace in the region more distant from reality. Certainly, decimating the population of Gaza in 2 years under the Dahiya doctrine fits the phrase "the cruelty is the point."
So, amid negotiations to not go to war, the children in the room decided to sneak attack and assassinate the Supreme Leader of Iran. This undermines resistance the Iranian people themselves were mounting against their government. It undermines International law and U.S. own laws about Presidency. It destabilizes the region and will impact the global economy.
Anyway. This took an hour and Im going to bed.
Hope you had a good night sleep...no sarcasm in this..But that is the best thing I will probably read from to til next week.
Well we had a deal with Iran to prevent them from constructing nukes, but then infamous felon rapist Donald Trump tore that deal up because a black man forged it.
So now we live in a much more dangerous world because a felon rapist couldn't handle someone else having accomplishments.
infamous felon rapist Donald Trump tore that deal up
by design, to get an excuse to bomb Iran.
Israel has been claiming Iran has imminent nuclear arms capability since 2012.
It's just another version of Iraq WMDs.