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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 96 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This seems like a great argument to just never use the under-regulated betting markets.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 35 points 3 weeks ago

Unless you're privy to some insider information you can make bets about. Then you absolutely should.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't like gambling. I worry about regulation driving it underground, though. I'd rather just see winnings taxed heavily, immediately and without exception or deduction. Invest it in social safety nets and it's effectively forcing the winners to share their loot with the most vulnerable of the people they're victimizing.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 13 points 3 weeks ago

That doesn't really address people betting on horrible things and then making them happen.

Also "it will just go underground" is still kind of a win? The average person isn't going to navigate sketchy underground arrangements, but they'll find a slick website with good SEO.

[–] minfapper@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

won't that still have the same effect of driving it underground though?

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Polymarket needs some serious eradication.

[–] smeg@infosec.pub 36 points 3 weeks ago

Correct answer. It creates extremely perverse incentives in society to allow people to bet on large scale harm.

[–] Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Wait.. why the fuck is there a betting site where you can bet on wars starting. What in the immoral fuck is that even about?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Boiling frogs.

  1. Farmers want a way to sell their crops before harvest time to guarantee a certain price, so they're protected by unpredictable swings in price. A market is set up for commodity futures, so a speculator can take that deal, and maybe make a lot of money if the price she sets with the farmer is well below the actual market value. This is seen as a good thing because the farmer gets to reduce their risk, while someone else gets the opportunity to make money by taking that risk on the farmer's behalf.
  2. This system expands like a cancer, so professional investors are soon buying derivatives on all kinds of things. Sometimes this is arguably good for the world, but many times it's just complex gambling, and it results in the housing-based financial collapse of 2007-08. Hedge funds and investment bankers manage to convince the regulators to let them keep the system as is, despite the crash.
  3. Wall street pushes to allow random people with no financial power, no training, no knowledge to also be able to get involved with derivatives, because having idiots on the other side of their bets is great for their bottom lines. It's much easier to make money from some random person using an app than it is to make money off another professional investor.
  4. Some clever person manages to reskin a gambling app as if it were an investment app, and allows people to "buy derivatives contracts" on just about anything. Nobody honestly believes that this is anything other than gambling. But, the regulators are all compromised and toothless, so now you can gamble on any of the 4 horsemen: war, famine, death or disease.
[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean I actually like derivatives for hedging. I used to get 6 year contracts for electricity prices for my business. They saved my ass during covid/ Russia war. Prices climbed so fucking high that power contract became a financial asset. I like the fact that I can insure my stock portfolio with put contracts, I like that I can generate some income selling call contracts, and yes sometimes I even do short term speculation with options. If it's good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it's good enough for me! that being said it has gone way to far and there should be way more regulations and oversight because it is just a big casino and robin hood would let a child buy calls if it could access the phone.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

The answer to all of your question is: The US.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can bet on anything, man. It's like Money Plane but with words writing.

[–] Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My innocent european ass has never heard of money plane or polymarket before.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been a thing in UK for decades. Big with morons.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

People actually throw money away on this sort of shit?

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you imagine having to pay out after some fake ass Jesus returned.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are giving me an idea...

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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Creative interpretation of reality. Polymarket pretends it is not a betting platform, since betting on wars and similar shit is banned even in the US.

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[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Just ban it, gambling used to be illegal in a lot of places.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Please ban all online betting and only make it legal at places where you have to actually go there in person to do. Impulse gambling on smartphones and prediction markets are straight cancer to society.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

and hear, here!

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

stares at crypto markets

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's only gambling if you don't know the outcome!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Polymarket and Kalshi are just an old mob numbers game but with the veneer of being accepted

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I refuse to participate in Biff Tannen's world! I know I'm likely to be the minority, but I'm a stubborn SOAB!

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Psycho groupie, cocaine crazy!"

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Always have been.

I have simply determined that I will have my pound of flesh before the end.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's always someone on the other side of these bets. How is it that people keep betting on things like this when they know that insiders like this are the ones they're sometimes betting against?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

The point is this bullshit market can influence decisions, like whether to have a nuclear strike on Iran -you think a Trump family member would not try to cash in on that?

[–] gezero@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The purpose is to give incentive to knowledgeable parties to let us know up front. In a corrupt government status like the current one we should be happy that we can get few hours heads up before the bombs start falling.

They are not going to warn you for free...

[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I saw Coinbase was allowing buying/selling stocks 24/7

Commercialism has overtaken the internet. We're in full corruption mode now. Without enforcing rules and regulations, this is where society ends up.

How do we make non-religious churches for decent people? Can we start that movement and move up from there?

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bhuddism and Zen Bhuddism are not religions, they are philosophies, a different way of viewing the world. They don't require a church, a congregation or for you to believe anything. One reaches an understanding of cosmic unity by exploring the boundries of self. In fact, one of the first hurdles is accepting that you know very little which in turn births humble curiosity about the nature of existence. This movement has been growing for a while, might be time to look into it. Personally I found the best way to cut through the non essential periphery and get to the core of the ideas was through listening to Alan Watts.

[–] benderbeerman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Buddhism isn't a religion?

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just Polymarket? This has been shitshow after shitshow of which Polymarket is just the latest. Under the current administration, there will be no regulation, Trump Jr himself is literally an investor and advisor to it.

It basically takes what they were doing with social networks and adds a profit incentive to it.

[–] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Never trust a coke head with a corporate comb over

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Damn the price of cocaine is about to skyrocket.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And kalshi and he’s starting his own.

https://lemmy.world/comment/22209710

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Come on, why did you use an AI tool to make his nose look like this.

Gambling is haram for a reason. 🤷

(And yeah, I know much of it happens in or goes through some Gulf institutions, don't worry I hate those hypocrites also).

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ant sources on this? I already believe you, because it's a trump, but I'd like to see the evidence so we have something more to slap into magat faces

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So, monitor Polymarket for massive bets on things the US government could do, and copy those bets.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fairly certain that there are a few AI engines doing exactly that. If I was in charge of a large news organization, I’d absolutely be monitoring these markets for this type of bet.

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