Locking the thread bc it's inviting far too much toxicity.
this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2026
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I don’t really know the answer here.
My family has a pit-bull, we’ve had her since she was a few months old. She has as far as I’m concerned been raised in a loving household by normal people. I would love to tell her she’s a great dog, and that she isn’t an outlier out of the many dogs we’ve had before.
But she is absolutely what I would describe as an “aggressive” dog, not most of the time, but she will probably on average once a week develop some sort of fit of rage (usually barking at the neighbors dog) and if you startle her or walk by her she will absolutely bite some part of you. It’s to the point where she has to be put in her cage whenever someone under the age of like 12 is at our house. (she basically never needs to go in her cage otherwise)
(i do really like this dog btw she’s generally alright though)
I have other experiences with pit-bulls as-well, in secondary/middle school a classmate of mine was attacked by their family dog to the point that they needed to be hospitalized. I happened to know them somewhat closely, and their dog was indeed, a pit-bull, and as far as i know, they were normal people.
Also I think the “this is like on the ethical level of eugenics for humans” is different because most dog breed differences are human creations, and many of the variations probably haven’t been developed with the best intentions. Not sure though.
I’d also like to restate that I don’t know the answer and I’m ultimately conflicted.
The answer is to not breed any more and let them go extinct.
Pro pitbull people getting desperate lol
They are bread to fight and so they aren't family pets. At least until we breed the instinct out of them again
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Well obviously they "shouldnt" exist because the things that caused them to exist were bad, as described by the meme. Pretty self explanatory.
Theres so much pit bull hate even on the fediverse its insane. "They're genetically violent" oh so genetics is a fine argument as long as they're not human?
Are trans people a result of selective breeding or wtf are you trying to say
There are absolutely dogs that have genetic predispositions for all sorts of things. That's hardly debated, you almost never see a Chihuahua track down lost hikers and you don't see a Labrador chase down rats. It's a very basic bit of genetics that makes some dogs much more able to injure or kill a person than other dogs. A Yorkie won't put someone in the hospital, a Staffordshire will.
And then people get involved. Shitty people will get dogs that have a dangerous reputation. The terrible people raise these dogs terribly, which creates a very poor safety record, which makes terrible people get more of them.
It's a self reinforcing problem, caused by predisposition and shitty people taking "advantage" of it.
Also, are you claiming there are no genetic differences in human? Because I don't think anyone would say that basketballers would be exactly as good at basketball if they were all 1.5m, or that Usain Bolt doesn't have genetic predispositions to being a good runner. Of course humans have genetic predispositions, it's stupid to claim otherwise.
And then people get involved. Shitty people will get dogs that have a dangerous reputation. The terrible people raise these dogs terribly, which creates a very poor safety record, which makes terrible people get more of them. It’s a self reinforcing problem, caused by predisposition and shitty people taking “advantage” of it.
The US's dog culture is disgusting.
That's hardly debated
Individuals having genetic predispositions isn't debated, but it being tied to breed is. It's especially less likely for breeds to play a role if they're more widespread; were the dog's parents and grandparents bred for dogfights, or just by people who wanted one? There are also no guarantees in genetics, with even genetically identical animals being capable of great variation. Using constructed and arbitrary categories like breed to tie behavior to looks is silly.
Using constructed and arbitrary categories like breed to tie behavior to looks is silly.
They are constructed and arbitrary but they are enforced by the selective breeding process itself no? That's like the whole point of selective breeding? To select and influence constructed and arbitrary traits in the genetic lineage? Unless the claim is that the concept of selective breeding itself is ineffective, which is definitely not a take I have heard before.
And out the woodwork they come. You even brought people into the eugenics discussion lol
Apparently... Was not expecting the comment section to blow up here. I thought dog racism was mostly a tumblr/reddit thing.
I tried to warn people that advertising the fediverse on Reddit will just make the fediverse more reddity, but nobody seemed to care. Getting a bunch of frat bros to join the philosophy club doesn’t mean you have a healthier philosophy club because it’s bigger, it means you spend most of your time debating if rape is bad and if there should be age of consent laws because your philosophy club is full of fucking frat bros. (This is an analogy, not a 1:1 comparison)
Completely forgetting thier roots as homestead and nursery dogs, as in dogs you leave with your babies on a homeatead so that if they get attacked by wild animals the dog would die protecting your baby.
pitbulls are incredibly human friendly. the caretaker has got a to be a real piece of shit to change that for any one of them.