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The surprising order means any new Wi-Fi router models sold in the country must be US-made, or receive an exemption from the Pentagon or Homeland Security Department.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 4 points 1 hour ago

So ship all the parts here and assemble them here... foreign companies have been doing this for decades.

I'm sure some moron thinks this will "create jobs". I'll let you guess who the moron is.

*Unless you pay tribute to the authoritarian government.

[–] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This will benefit a few specific big brands that have the lawyers to figure out the spaghetti mess of free trade agreements and origin rules.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 19 points 4 hours ago

Just to remind you as the surveillance state crawls further up between your kidneys that Epstein used a free gmail account hosted on US servers and nobody did dick about him.

[–] bbsm3678@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Does anyone have any suggestions on a router I should buy before this comes into effect? Would prefer one that is open source or can run an open OS.

Can a raspberry pi be used to make a router?

[–] Notamoosen@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

A pi can definitely be used, but you may get much better performance for a similar price getting a refurbished pc, adding a second nic, and installing something like opnsense.

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

So just buy in a commerce site in Europe and import it

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting addition to the "free market" system we all just love so, so much.

Its obvious its for spying. Until there is a telescope stuck up every non rich citizens ass the US government will not give up.

People should rewatch that interview with the creator of Lavabit and how the feds forced him into a shutdown because he wouldn't play their spy games.

He is still not allowed to talk about all the details of it either. "What about my first amendment rights" he said in the interview.

You know, just things in the land of the free™

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to it? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it, so idk what to look for.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=spW0q-g2BxU&pp=ygUZTGF2YWJpdCBmb3VuZGVyIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D

I'm sorry its a YouTube link I would link invidious or something similar but man I can't ever seem to get the links to those to reliably work consistently.

No worries, those services are pretty hit or miss for me as well.

Thanks for the link, I’ll watch this later today :)

[–] missingno@fedia.io 75 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're gonna tell you this is the only way to be sure that routers don't contain a backdoor. They're gonna tell themselves this is the only way to be sure that routers do contain a backdoor.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

It can be both.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 57 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Obvious move toward even more of a surveillance state. My current router is not US made and my next one definitely won't be. Buying American made is buying a little piece of fascism.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Very little is American made.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have some insight for the average joe.

When you buy an American made product its a sham 99% of the time.

I used to run an injection molding machine for a job. And made parts for a well known brand.

The parts where made from LG plastics from china, on a Japanese injection molding machine ran by me. That got paid $16.40 an hour, with no benefits.

The parts said "made in America" on the mold.

Utter sham, im all for american jobs. But its bullshit to say its made in america. When all the parts that make it are not American.

There should be some legal president that if it says "made in america" it must be 98% american resources.

Not some dog eggs, of well i bought some plastic from china and the machine from japan. And had the american press the button to make the part. Therefore its an american made product.

Now im not saying all company's are like that but majority of them are.

[–] x_pikl_x@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

We get parts from Japan, unassembled. They already have made in america stamped into the side. They get put together by a couple robots and sent out the door with a huge markup for the locally manufactured parts. Local heroes keeping the community employed since 1986!

[–] teft@piefed.social 72 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Painting a target on himself

Put it before the white box, then wireguard or ygg out to a vps. Fuck 'em.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I did this 20 years ago, I can do it again...

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

does this support wireless, aka Wi-Fi? I can't tell from a ~1 minute skim

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes. Linux can (usually though not always) drive a wifi card as an access point.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If there are drivers for your card, yes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

not reading it either, but if they don't say how, you just configure hostapd

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Same goes for EV's, mobile phones etc. The US is one of the most limited countries in the world with regards to choice.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

So much freedom

[–] org@lemmy.org 53 points 15 hours ago

Exemptions will be sold by Trump to major manufacturers outside of the US. They will also come with mandatory back doors.

[–] burt@programming.dev 39 points 14 hours ago

curious (well not really) that it is only consumer grade. nothing about business grade, of even a deliniation as to where "pro-sumer" falls. if this is a big brother situation then the consumer only thing makes perfect sense. it also drives users back to isp supplied hardware which means more rental fees, so more money CEOs.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 42 points 14 hours ago

OH BOY! State sanctioned surveillance because backdoors are necessary.

[–] dlsloop@lemmy.zip 46 points 15 hours ago

Welp, time to stock up on some older routers or make my own. This country is looking more Orwellian by the day.

[–] civ@lemmy.civl.cc 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

When filing for an exemption, the company needs to submit a specific plan for how they're going to move manufacturing to the US 💀

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 36 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Make up shit and backtrack once trump is out of office, just like they did during the first administration.

[–] Crt_static@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No way tech companies won't manipulate this to their benefit right? Gonna be having routers shipped in decoy packages. I'm not buying backdoor infested mess they're gonna peddle at an unreasonable price cause there can be no outside competition.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I'm in Ohio. I wonder how hard it'd be to drive to Canada, pick up a router, and drive back?

Or hell......maybe just drive to Canada. I'm sure I can find a job and a place to live, right? Just go to a Tim Hortons and say "Hey, I'm gonna work hete now, because fuck America!" and Canadians are like, legally obligated to be nice. I'm sure it'll all work out, as long as I share some donuts.

The hardest part will be getting used to pink money.

I mean, seriously Canada? You a big fan of monopoly money?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

I’m in Ohio. I wonder how hard it’d be to drive to Canada, pick up a router, and drive back?

You jest, but I suspect this is going to be a Thing. I mean, people were willing to do it for eggs (and getting caught at the border), and a router's a rather larger purchase.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

what if th government prohibits your ISP from initilizing your routers MAC address because its not one on an approved list?

[–] teft@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Routers are not modems.

Put your router behind the company issued modem and then VPN out.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So the FCC won't let me be, or let me be me, so let me see...they try to shut down the internet on my pc, but it would be so empty without me!

[–] LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus 1 points 48 minutes ago

Made me chuckle in these dark times. Cheers!

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago

Then make it lie. Spoofing is a thing that sometimes works!

[–] rimu@piefed.social 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This will not stand. Remember, TACO.

[–] obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app 5 points 12 hours ago

as far as I know, a similar ban on new models of drones still stands after several months.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Brendan Carr is such a dummy!

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I wonder if this has anything to do with them clawing back WiFi7 spectrum for resale.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Given Ubiquiti's Russian connections, and TP Link's Chinese connections, this honestly isn't surprising.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 13 hours ago

Ubiquity doesn't have Russian connections, Russians just use them as they can't be remotely disabled and they are decent hardware.