I am aware of the Orwellian privacy implication, but how do we deal with bots, now that AI is rampant?
Something like hashcash, or what?
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Some type CAPTCHA type puzzle. Maybe ask users how many Rs are in ‘strawberry’ before they can proceed
to play a game of paper scissor rock. Most chatbot try to play (without any understanding of how pointless it is). Anything that tries to play straight away is automatically a bot.
Reject the age verification.
Feels like something systemd can solve with a compile time flag. Either have it on or off depending on if you want to legally sell it in those areas or not and away you go.
Give an inch they'll take a mile.I see your instance is UK, so I assume you don't understand how utterly insane US lawmakers are right now.
if there is no malicious intent in adding this, they really should learn to read the room.
The biggest defense for this I see is:
- it's not bad now
- it's not mandatory
- it will remain unused like the other fields that were previously there
- you can put anything in it
Then, tell me, why bother adding this in the first place, exactly at the time governments are looking toward full control of everybody's computers? If it's that innocent and useless, either someone really likes throwing shit up, or it won't stop there.
And given the slate of other things that "didn't stop there" in the past few years, you know, it cost nothing to be cautious. Especially if it's "so useless you won't even notice it's there" after all.
exactly at the time governments are looking toward full control
Isn't it all the time?
Then, tell me, why bother adding this in the first place, exactly at the time governments are looking toward full control of everybody’s computers? If it’s that innocent and useless, either someone really likes throwing shit up, or it won’t stop there.
It's there because systemd is the place that makes the most sense to store that kind of data.
Systemd stores user details.
This is a user detail.
So, storing it in systemd makes the most sense.
The alternative is having every individual program try to store data about the user in their own, non-interoperatble formats. That's a needless complication when systemd already stores user details
This field will not affect you unless you choose to let it. You get to pick what software is installed on your system. Unless you choose to use an application that validates your birthdate, the field does absolutely nothing.
For people who want to use birth date (say, maybe people with multiple kids) it makes way more sense to store that detail about the user along with every other detail about the user that's stored on the system.
The alternative is having every individual program try to store data about the user in their own, non-interoperatble formats
The alternative is NOT to store that data system wide, NOT have it made easily available to anything in the first place, and NOT normalizing having all your personal data available at will to everything.
Are you really arguing about the convenience of having personal data available system wide when it's is absolutely irrelevant to 99.9% of running applications?
Liberated systemd is a fork of mainline systemd started by Jeffrey Seathrún Sardina, a machine learning/AI researcher
I already have qualms about that.
Call me dreamy-eyed, but the reference to "machine learning" might mean this person has respect for what the technology is and has been for decades before the chatbot flood
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Far many more than someone.
After all, any and all age checks we have nowadays are a black box anyways
This is the only part I disagree with. Age verification is typically done via services like ID.me, Lexis Nexus, etc which do it via identity verification with documentation. The alternative method that most social sites have gone with is age prediction from a face scan, of which providers are more than happy to tout how they do it as differentiators. For the latter, there are even FOSS options.
I think what they mean is, with a black box we know the input, documents, and output, yes you can buy beer, but we don't know the internals. How and for how long is the data stored, who is it shared with, who has access to it, how much meta data can they pull together to build a profile on you and so on.
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