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In an unexpected turn of events, the director of the Pirate Bay documentary TPB-AFK has sent takedown notices to YouTube requesting its removal. The director states that he sees the streaming portal as a radicalizing platform full of hate. The takedowns are not without controversy, however, as TPB-AFK was published under a Creative Commons license.

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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

tldr: the author doesn't want the documentary anymore on Youtube specifically, anywhere else seems to be still ok.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice, we should post it on Peertube then if it isn't on tgere already ...

Yay:

https://video.hardlimit.com/w/366HD3wNWzECHw9QxJ9tcC

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You're kind of missing the point. He released the film under creative commons license, specifically Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported. The license specifically says;

You are free to: share -- copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format.

Which of course includes YouTube. The license cannot be revoked as long as you follow the license, and sharing to YouTube doesn't constitute breaking the license. Which means he's breaking the license.

He's very liable to be sued in this situation and he would absolutely lose.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Violation of his own Creative Commons license. It's a tenable contract in the United States--a contract between him and viewers, creators, and frankly anyone.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only legitimate takedown I can see is is the non-commercial clause. If YouTube is making money off streams, wouldn't that be a license violation?

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's a question for the court. It may sound cut and dry, but it's really not. In the US legal system, other people don't stop having rights just because you have rights. There are 3 entities at play here, the author of the work, the uploader, and YouTube, all of which have rights. But the author of the movie limited (intentionally) his rights by releasing the work under Creative Commons. The user has the right to upload the video to YouTube. That is not in question. The question is whether or not YouTube is beholden to the original Creative Commons license. They didn't upload the media, and the media was legally uploaded and for all intents and purposes must follow YouTube policy which is their right to monetize.

This isn't a case of someone uploading a copy-written movie and YouTube making money off of it, it's much more complex and anyone telling you different doesn't understand the actual legal issue here.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which of course includes YouTube.

Which distributes videos commercially.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

He DMCA'd all versions of his movie, even the ones which were not monetized. This is not a good argument and won't hold up in court. Simple fact of the matter is, is that he violated his own license.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah hell, I don't know anything about it, but figured I'd go ahead and download it to watch later.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Director using reverse psychology to get people to watch his documentary

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You still can, it's on archive.org!

Edit: not sure if I'm allowed to post the direct link, but it comes up right away on the search.

[–] Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I see no reason why not, it's Creative Commons licensed. Would be different if it were actually pirated content but it isn't. It's freely sharable.

https://archive.org/details/tpb-afk-1080p