gotcha. What about assets? Im not an accounting person, but we routinely buy tooling for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Raw materials have costs/value associated with them. How would that figure in?

If you want to compare it to salaries, I think you would need to do the year-over-year change. But even that wouldn't factor in all the bloated C-suite bonuses and such, so I feel like the calculations would end up being much more complex.

For instance, if you work somewhere for 23 years making on average $100,000 per year, you'll have received about $2.3 million from that company over time. If that company's market cap increases by $2.3 million per employee in that course of time, then you would be about even by your metric.

To paraphrase Tim Curry, communism and capitalism are both red herrings.

Oh that big punch up between the Soviet Union and the United States, decadent capitalism vs brutalist communism. Who won? According to the scoreboard as of 2026: Israel.

The catch phrase I've always heard about communism is "the people own the means of production." Has that ever been true in practice? Did Soviet citizens own any piece of the means of production? Did anything resembling "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" ever once happen under the hammer and sickle? Or was that the false narrative the idiot asshole in charge used to cow the unwashed masses?

Similar questions could be asked of my fellow capitalist Americans. Capitalism is allegedly about the free market, supply and demand, if there is a demand someone will provide a supply, probably multiple someones, competitors will compete, those who do it faster, cheaper or better will succeed until someone else does it even fasterer, cheaperer and betterer repeat until someone else comes along with a completely different idea, welcome to the infinite cycle of meritocracy where the cream rises to the top. How's that working out? Some substance has risen to the top, not sure it's cream.

A common problem I see between the Soviet Union and the United States: Weak systems for preventing psychotic despots from ruining it all.

Further expanding on this: My understanding of the Soviet Union: Something something the Bolsheviks, something something communist revolution, They just about have an election, that Lenin overthrows because it isn't going his way. Lenin is King Shit Of Turd Mountain until his death, then the dumb guy from the ghetto he kept around because he's good at hurting people, Josef "probably worse than Hitler" Stalin takes the throne. The entire run of the Soviet Union is essentially a dictatorship with a command economy and remains thoroughly miserable.

The United States, meanwhile, has gone through phases. Tides have ebbed and flowed, robber barons have come and gone, consumer protection laws have come and gone. Times when a very few, very rich men have been mostly miserable for most people; times when those assholes get knocked down a peg and the common man has a chance to make a decent living get better.

The problem is a few ultimately rich assholes in charge.

You have far fewer desperate people to feed into the meat grinder

Funnily enough, socialist countries typically don't feature unemployment, making the utilization of labor more effective. Also, planned economy has immense potential in the information era.

you have to be right everywhere every time or the oppressors will magnify your failures both at home and abroad

You have tools to curb this, there's a reason why the great internet firewall exists.

your researchers aren't researching almost exclusively weapons of mass destruction

Fair enough lmao