DOGE is not just a Musk thing. Privatizing government has been a long term goal of the republicans and capitalists for a very long time
this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2025
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The elon and trump feud is a smokescreen for the media, to cover up other things. The fallout between the two is a laser, and we're all cats.
Trump threatening to take away Musk's government contracts is pretty serious for a smokescreen. Even the threat of doing this could destroy the companies, even if he never intended to follow through.
It may have destroyed a normal company. But musks empire is so out of normal market rules that the thread won't do much harm I would think
Unless Tesla gets bailed out I don't expect it to survive much longer, consumers already don't want his badly built and overpriced swastikars anymore, and this is yet another blow to the company. Musk leaving the government won't save Tesla from itself.
It needs government money or it's done.
Elon has recieved about 38 Billion from government funding so far so he probably knows how to keep milking the cow
You're forgetting how often Rump says all sorts of things he never follows up on. This is why I keep saying we need a better news media. One that can recognize when something is genuinely news worthy. None of the details of this feud matter. Only maybe a single story about them having a feud would be needed. And if it were TV news it would be the last story. A funny fluff piece that doesn't actually matter.
I'm not forgetting that he's a shit talker, but you aren't getting it - simply by saying this shit he has already harmed the companies by undermining investor confidence.
Trump directly attacked Musk's companies and their investors, whether he follows through on the threat or not.
Which is why the news needs to ignore his shit talking rather than broadcasting it.
No, actually, I quite like that the media circus might cause Musk's companies to fail. It's good when his investors are hurt.
Russia still needs to get all the data somehow.
The federal government lawyers have said in court that Elon Musk was not the leader of that organization. Therefore, the fact that he said he has departed from Washington would not affect that organization.
Of course we know that he was leading it, and the president has said as much, and the above claims are all being contested in court by quoting the president. But anyway, if you want the official answer, now you have it.
But the official answer also changes over time. Because if Musk was not the leader of that group, then many of the actions that he claimed to take and many of the actions that people attributed to him would now be actions of a private individual, which would expose him to massive civil liability. Therefore, we can be sure that the government's lawyers will continue to change their story about when and where and how he worked for the government.
Because cruelty is the point.
Reasons I can think of right off:
- The federal government doesn't move anywhere near that fast.
- The federal government isn't run by Trump anyway, he's a sock puppet for the money people who put him in office.
- If they didn't want DOGE to exist it wouldn't, so apparently they do.
- We're just peasants so this discussion doesn't even matter LOL.