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[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

These monuments are some of the most blatant fossil fuel propaganda to hit the mainstream.

Oh no, nuclear is so scary, we have to warn our possible descendants 100,000 years in the future even if all cultural continuity is lost because we care so much for the distant future. Climate change? Oh don't worry, it's just your grandchildren and everybody after them that will have to live through a mass extinction event, you have nothing to worry about.

Nuclear waste? Well, sure, you could keep it perfectly safe by putting it on a grate in a bathtub, but that would require maintenance once every decade or so, and that's just not acceptable. Now by law you have to bury it in a geologically inactive region where it can be guaranteed to not leak in the slightest for the next million years without any human intervention. Leaded gasoline and car exhaust made half the population angry xenophobes and kills hundreds of thousands of people per year? Cost of doing business, I'm afraid.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh no, nuclear is so scary, we have to warn our possible descendants 100,000 years in the future even if all cultural continuity is lost because we care so much for the distant future.

Even if it isn't that relatively impactful these kinds of monuments are still really cool and whatever experts in culturally independent communication they are getting to do it totally deserve the funding

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, these monuments are pretty... rad

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

👈👈👈 😎😎😎 👉👉 ☢️

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

whatever experts in culturally independent communication they are getting to do it totally deserve the funding

Some of those "experts" proposed genetically engineering a bioluminescent breed of dogs to detect when radiation is nearby, and making viral pop songs about "when the dog starts glowing, run very far away"...

I think some of them got a little too imaginative. Sometimes you think so abstractly that you miss the obvious.

For instance, Carl Sagan suggested we simply mark them with a skull and crossbones, which every organism with an endoskeleton can recognize as a symbol for "death" and thus "danger."

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd be worried people would end up thinking that is where all the pirated media is buried

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Riiight, because "skull = death" is a social construct, but "jolly roger = pirates" is totally a universal constant that transcends time and culture...

[–] binary45@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention that the nuclear fuel can be recycled, albeit with some loss, but (at least in the USA) you’re legally not allowed to do that.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Because they need that byproduct for the bombs.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These monuments are some of the most blatant fossil fuel propaganda to hit the mainstream.

Why is anti nuclear propaganda always portrayed to be pro fossil fuels by nuclear proponents?

Cleaner alternatives have been available for quite a while now.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Because of their effect, their media positioning, and their cost. These monuments are from the 20th century, when clean alternatives were more expensive and less efficient, so the defunding of nuclear directly fed into increased fossil fuel consumption. And thus into increased pollution, climate change, war, and airborne radioactive waste. Any activist could have seen this.

As for media positioning, it is always very clear whether corporate media support or oppose a cause. Climate activists are disruptive weirdos that get arrested while people whose lives they slightly inconvenienced are interviewed over shots of backed up traffic or a wide-angle shot of a handful of activists amidst a lot of context. Anti-nuclear activists are concerned citizens who get interviewed to low crowd shots that show even small groups as a throng, or lower-middle class moms and pops interviewed at home about their worries for their kids' health, cut with ominous shots of drinkwater-safe water vapor coming from cooling towers.

As for cost, first there's the monuments themselves. Grassroots activism tends to have lots of people with hodgepodge equipment, while astroturfing has fancy tools and either a handful of people to operate them or contractors. These monuments are massive projects built by contractors designed by handfuls of individuals. It fits the pattern.

Second, there's all of the expensive storage. No capitalist government is going to waste millions of dollars listening to their people's objectively excessive safety concerns, unless it directly benefits the rich people they have made corrupt deals with. Nuclear safety laws were designed to keep nuclear power more expensive than fossil fuels, because if the safety standards were reasonable then it would blow fossil fuels out of the water and threaten the justification for funding the military-industrial complex.

Even now, a quarter of the way through the 21st century, if nuclear power safety standards were reduced merely to those of wind turbines and solar panels - where people regularly die from falling, electrical fires, electrocution, etc. - nuclear power would probably be cheaper than renewables.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s so badass there’s gotta be something cool in there

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I remember hearing similar reasoning from Simba ...




edit: Inappropriate noun to more fitting gerund.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago

Leave some room for me.

[–] charokol@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It is repulsive to us

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

These nuclear waste deterrents have always been a bit bizarre to me. If you make something monumentally ominous then you're going to get tourists.

People are fucking weirdos. The same idiots that crawl through holes in the ground are definitely the kind that would climb through the giant razor field.

[–] LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

It is our warrior tribe's right of passage. To become a man, each boy of age must spend five nights in the god spears.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, you just need glowing cats and a catchy song

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago

Nuclear cats deemed too unlucky to keep around because they keep getting eaten by radioactive wolves

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What they need to do are make really cool temples nowhere near the site, scatter them around, with the whole story.

I also like the idea of a nuclear priesthood.

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 3 points 1 week ago

The nuclear priests are obviously hiding something of great value from us, we must kill them and take it for ourselves!

[–] Paragone@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just realized:

there were at-least-2 different designs for that kind of long-term-deterrent.

The spikey-stuff version, & the ominous-maze ( or however it should be called ) version, & maybe another..

That spikey-stuff version could be destroyed-removed by people who found the signal to be the problem, much more easily than the ominous-maze one could.

That may affect future lives..

( of course, my idea that simply putting the stuff DEEP into the ocean-floor right before a subduction-zone, to have plate-tectonics remove it from our surface, would bypass all that, but pick the best method, not the prettiest idea, right? )

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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not a field of spikey stuff surrounding an ominous maze?

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago

And we add a tectonic plate on top for good measure

[–] univers3man@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here is the whole document with all the proposals.

https://wipp.info/921382.pdf

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Full minute of downloading text…

I am gonna need a children's books version with pictures if i ever want to learn about that.

[–] Chezus9247@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
[–] 10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Crawl out through the fallout

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no its a terrible idea because i was late.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just make A really good depiction of a melted skull, and a dark, ominous cave.

[–] sleet01@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

"This place is not a place of honor... it is a place of make-outs."

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Nuclear waste with a deterrent spike field? That is what a copper cable would say!

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Is this a Hyperion spoiler?