Teeeeechnically you have to be a powerful Jedi to become a force ghost. Those kids never had a chance
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Just being a power Jedi isn't enough either. It was something Qui Gon learned and taught it only to Anakin, Obi Wan and Yoda. All the other powerful Jedi? Gone.
Until Rise of Skywalker, but we don't talk about that mess.
He didn't teach yoda, he just chatted with him a bit and told him to go to Degobah to learn from the Jedi priestess.
Qui-Gon never completed his force spirit training, so I imagine it was quite difficult for him to communicate with Yoda in the first place, and he was meditating in a jedi temple at the time.
Oh and it was like the tail end of the clone wars by the time that happened, so I imagine Yoda was a bit pre-occupied before teaching Obi-Wan and by then there weren't really many Jedi to teach.
Anakin gets a pass for being the chosen one, and then for his redemption arc/self sacrifice...and I guess that gets inherited by Luke and Leah?
Hell Leah is like a masterclass in retcon and deus ex machina in and of herself.
Luke and Leia also had plenty of time to learn from Obi-Wan and Yoda, or to read the sacred texts themselves.
Yeah here's the real reaction from those kids:
well if you want to get SUPER specific you had to be taught how to be a force ghost by Qui Gon directly. he first taught Yoda, then eventually Obi-Wan, and I don't know how the fuck/when he taught Anakin. post death I guess? picked it up in like an hour or so? and then I guess all 4 of them taught Luke and Leia at some point.
Isn’t it possible that they could just…figure it out themselves? From what you state, it implies that Qui Gon found out about it himself. Very nice info from you and Goodeye8, appreciate it
plot armor is a helluva thing
Qui Gon hard in denial, giving a confused and full of mixed feelings Vader secret force lessons. Palpatine, knowing his apprentice is fragile in that area, lets it slide when he notices, not wanting to deal with a whiney Anakin again after calming him down about the Padme thing.
Which was also part of the reason he didn't say anything about Vader's many apprentices; partially because he hoped Vader would train his own replacement, partially because if Vader didn't think he had to keep it secret, he'd complain Palpatine's ear off about it like he used to do as a Jedi. It was fun while he was manipulating him towards the dark side but just annoying now that the honeymoon phase was over.
Obi-Wan "Why does he get to be a young ghost"
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Ask George Lucas.
This is how Anakin's force ghost looked in theatres in 1983:
Then Darth Lucas decided to alter the movies in the 1990s and 2000s.
"I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them any further."
[blows dust off VHS tapes]
Also Yoda.
Was Yoda ever young?
Tbh Grogu already kinda got old man vibes
Yoda wants to be a DILF ghost
You misspelled "wants to be", it should be "is". 🤪
Because that's how he looked when Anakin died and Darth Vader was born
Yet that's only true... from a certain point of view.
Bro just press escape and open the character menu
He really should have gone to super-hell. The Force is kind of a pushover.
I think it's canon that his dad is The Force, so...
Nepotism!
It is. In old canon there was the idea that Plagueis and Palpatine trying to create “life” in their quest to cheat death might have been why the Force responded by creating Anakin. There was also a fan theory that Sidious secretly used the Force to impregnate Shmi to create the perfect apprentice, but that was based off an awkwardly drawn comic panel that seemed to give that impression but the writers stated that was not the intention. Currently, Anakin is pure will of the Force. Per Lucas, the intent of the story was what we got in the Prequels and OT- Anakin/Vader’s actions balanced the Force by reducing the two competing sects to nothing, and despite being a “Jedi”, Luke is not a Jedi like the order had been, he’s far more balanced and will be because he’s not dogmatic. The return of Palpatine in Legends (Dark Empire) and Disney both violate Lucas’ original intent.
Per Lucas
His answers change from interview to interview, so oddly enough the creator of Star Wars isn't a reliable source on canon.
lol, yeah. He’s got a great imagination, questionable execution, and should never be allowed to write dialogue. I’ve never forgiven him for trying to turn space magic into “actually it’s some symbiotes that live in your blood”. Bruh, space magic was better because whatever the Force is, it’s wildly inconsistent and entirely plot driven. Sometimes you can pull a Star Destroyer out of orbit, sometimes you can fly through the vacuum of space, sometimes you can crush a dude’s throat a few light years away, some times you can do all that but you don’t have the high ground and are absolutely fucked. Whatever man, space wizards with laser sword and telekinesis; fuck yeah.
Not gonna lie, I might be the one person to actually like midichlorians. Though that's because it was yet another poorly-defined plot element where your imagination could come up with a better explanation than whatever dross Lucas would have turned them into (ugh, look up the Whills - one of his plans for the sequels was basically Fantastic Voyage).
I spent days thinking up theories to explain midichlorians after The Phantom Menace released, which was probably more enjoyment than I got out of the film itself.
Midichlorians killed my childhood. Right there in the theatre. Dragged little 'x' year old me out of long-term, foundational memory and blastered it right in the back of the head.
He sold that right for FOUR BILLION DOLLARS.
I'm less upset about him selling those rights (after all, four billion dollars is four billion dollars) and more about who he sold them to. Yeah, Disney is one of the few studios with the resources and talent to rival Industrial Light and Magic, but their higher-ups are infamously meddlesome bureaucrats* who chase fads and hammer down anything thought-provoking or controversial so they can release a bland product that can be sold to anyone.
Say what you want about Lucas (and believe me, there's plenty to say about him), at least he somewhat cared about his universe. Disney only cared how much they could exploit it for profit, to the degree that Lucas's toy and merchandise-driven designs seem quaint in comparison.
* Autocorrect wanted that to say butchers, which also fits.
Awkward.
Hawkweed is the only other English word that includes the "wkw" letter sequence.
Tbh, Anakin's redemption never felt earned to me. That guy was literally Hitler's right hand man for a very long time, committing all sorts of horrible things.
And all he had to do to wash his slate clean is 30 seconds of murdering the right person.
Just like in the Bible.
he's there to finish what he started! RUN
he's fettermaning
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