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The only problem I've had with the EVs we've been leasing for 5 years now, is unsolicited criticism from EV haters. They seem to ignore the fact that I've been driving various diesel and petrol vehicles for decades. If my own lived experience of EVs was less rewarding than my previous ICE ownership I'd switch back. It's not like a football team that I'm wedded to. They're just generally better cars in terms of driving, torque, maintenance, cost to run and basically every metric that matters to me as a driver. Quite why that annoys people who in many cases have never even been behind the wheel of one is beyond me.

What I'd like is a EV that has no additional shite attached other than what I want.

Just give me a chassis with a standardised battery pack, that has AC. Then let ME choose what after-market 3rd party options to put in such as:

Heated seats, Radio/CD/BT/carplay or android auto using standard car DIN box sizes, reversing sensors, cruise control, cab lighting, etc.

Thats absolutley true, but I live in an apartment complex that wont even fix the elevators, there's no way in hell I'd ever be able to charge at home and for that reason... I can never have an EV.

EV drivers have realized this over 10 years ago. It's the ICE and fossil industries that are trying to delay everyone else from realizing the same. They want as much of your money as they can get before you realize EVs are better.

Anything but public transit, eh?

Donald Trump.

World's most contemptible belligerent asshole, and also, unintentionally, world's most effective EV salesman.

Does anyone think... gas prices... are going to meaningfully go ... down, in the future?

If so, well I know a guy who can offer you a timeshare on a bridge he sublets from a travelling used car salesman.

... the best bridge.

I like electric cars, they're not for me I personally hate modern cars looks, computerisation, screens, and lack of any discernible personality, but the more people who own EVs, the longer I will be able to keep running my ICE car.

I do realise I'm a luddite, but I see vehicles as more than just a tool for travelling from one point to another- which EVs are great for- and more of a symphony of engineering to create something that has a distinct personality, every engine drives slightly differently and I think that is much more engaging than what is possible with EVs. (I do think the fake gear changes in cars like the Ioniq 5n are a bit silly as they're not necessary)

~~I don't know actual numbers but my physics teacher said that he'd worked out that his car which had almost 400,000 miles on it had just about created the same amount of CO2 emissions in its use as it had in its creation but regardless of whether he was correct~~ I think there's something to be said for not constantly replacing cars and keeping existing ones running as long as possible, there's a lot of materials that go into producing a car that are at best environmentally expensive to recycle.

Ehh, I feel like a lot of people in here are arguing just for the sake of it, and because the guy who said this is from a car company.

Yes, of course electric cars are better than cars burning fossil fuels. EVs being too expensive, too few buttons and too many touch screens has nothing to do with that. The same goes for the also obvious fact, that we should focus more on public transport because it is much more efficient in moving people around than cars.

We have an ID.3 and a 2012 Audi A5 Cabrio. I love my Cabrio. I would drive it all day if I could. It's just so much fun.

The ID.3 is a tool. An appliance. There's... No joy. Because of the empty-ness, because of the flat screens, because I'm being monitored by Volkswagen and I cannot turn that off.

If they could marry the fun and privacy of the Cabrio with the sheer "better-ness" of the ID.3.. then I would be set :-)

Cars are like horses: they shit all over the place and never work when you need them

Top gear surprisingly had good insight here. They compared ice engines to a mechanical watch. Sure it’s beautiful and technically tells the time and you can respect the engineering but with ev it’s more like respecting the construction for why it is rather than the future of transportation

after 70s, 80s, ... ev was the best car I'd ever driven. try one for a week. i was more pissed car makers have been repackaging oil-burners since 60s. basically same accessories without a clutch.

I would love to have one but let me know when they make a 4x4 truck that can haul my travel trailer more than 90 miles before needing a charge. I do a lot of hauling in the mountains where there is not much a a charging network. I had high hopes for the Ford Lightning but that fell pretty flat.

We had electric cars before ICE cars. The first car was electric.

Need WAY better infrastructure for charging, better batteries, a way to cheaply replace those batteries, a faster way to charge and most important - cooperative prices.

My largest concern is not being able to prepay for electric usage. It hurts people who don't have credit cards. Plus it seems like there are like 30 different chargers you need accounts for.