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I have been using Bitwarden for around 7~ years. Subscription for this long too, at 10USD p/year. I will be switching due to lack of transparency, and would love to hear others thoughts on this.

The linked article goes into further detail, but here is a small summary that very much concern me / are sus:

  • that 10USD per year has gone up quietly . I just checked and I have no email telling me it's increased. It renews in like 2 months, so this is good timing for me
  • Originally Bitwarden had values as apart of the acronym "GRIT". Gratitude, Responsibility, Inclusion, and Transparency. They have changed the last two words to "Innovation, Trust"
  • There is now a new CEO, this was not announced and the only reason people outside of Bitwarden know is that someone saw this change on LinkedIn
  • The free tier momentarily disappeared from their product page for about a month (april14-may14). People were likely still able to make free accounts during this period. Bitwarden says it was a marketing mistake

The price hike is one thing, but for me the acronym change is most concerning, which is why I will be looking at another password manger (probably keepassxc)

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[–] Nukitashi@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, Go for it. I've been using KeePass for a long time now and I am very satisfied with it. Aside from the security and privacy (Which you know is BEST out there), It comes with many customizations too. I used to use BitWarden but now I use KeePass.

[–] liverstealer@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

Great to hear. One thing I liked about Bitwarden is that you change choose Aegon2id and its KDF iterations, etc. Is that standard? Can you do that in keepass?

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Don’t be evil!!

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I will conti UE to self-host Vaultwarden and use the BitWarden clients until I feel the clients are not trustworthy or they are forked.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the email I received at the begining of the year when there were multiple articles about the price increase.

I think it's important to note that you may have missed or deleted the email, or it potentially could have gone to your junk folder, but they did send out emails letting people know.

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got the same email with 25% discount for this year. Can't argue with lack of transparency on that and it's a bit unreasonable to expect no price increases ever

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah. If you're using the services that might required a paid subscription, it's not out of the realm of possibilities for there to be a price increase eventually.

I'm not discounting that there's the potential for a pivot to less transparency and auditability going forward, I just wanted to point out that this wasn't done with no warning.

I don't trust the company that bought them. Private equity is almost always a bad time for consumers/users.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 116 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The CEO apparently is a big private equity guy, and those bloodsucking ticks only know how to do one thing: Suck every last drop of money and goodwill from the company and its customers as quickly as possible.

Breaks my heart, I've been a massive Bitwarden advocate for years. Been happily paying for the individual paid plan. I'm now working on setting up KeyPassXC with syncthing.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does KeyPassXC have passkey and TOTP support?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 50 minutes ago
[–] Futurama@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. For passkey, you need to install the browser plugin and enable support in the preferences.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you or someone you trust happen to have a home server, just install Vaultwarden, which is the community fork of Bitwarden without any fees, shady stuff or reliance on Bitwarden infrastructure.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I know this options exists, but honestly I don’t think I have reliable enough infrastructure. It’s hardly ever offline, but my backup game is super weak, and I have had to rebuild from scratch once in the past three years.

What happens if I fuck up again and have to rebuild? Just feels like a massive potential failure point.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 minutes ago

Your backup is all your clients. Every client has a blob. If you loose it export and then import. That is if everything else fails.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you look real close side by side there is a subtle difference....

Suuuper easy to stand up, took me about 20 minutes to get it up and running

[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Well, when u say supereasy to set up, i don't know. The need for reverse proxy was driving me nuts. For someone that doesn't expose anything to the outside world, the need for a reverse proxy is overkill in my opinion. But i did hive up fairly easily, so i'll have another go in the future when i have time. For now my Syncthing + Keepass setup will have to do but i do find its not 100% robust. If i have keepass open on both mobile and laptop, i'm at risk of loosing changes. If the change is made on one device and i close after change, i won't see the change until i close keepass on the other device. But by then syncthing thinks that the latter is the most recent change and marks the file of first device as conflict file. So the chsnge is not lost but its not in the most "recent" version of the database.

[–] undu@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 day ago

It got bought by a company owned by Vista Equity partners, a private equity firm.

The loss of values happened at Citrix when it was Vought by Vista. They installed Tom Krauseasthe CEO to gut it from the inside out.

Everybody should have an exit plan ready to be able to leave bitwarden

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol.. From Transparency to "Just Trust Me Bro".

[–] liverstealer@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

I know right. Even in an Enterprise environment why would trust be a better word to represent your values over transparency

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I guess it's time to move on, I'll check PrivacyGuides for a better alternative while I compare by myself too.

I'm not gonna allow a quiet price hike, this is scummy and anti-consumer.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Bit warden is undergoing enshittifcation in real time. It’s interesting to watch.

[–] liverstealer@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Great resource. However, I remember one of them recommending straight up poor advice (and I think suspected sponsored recommendations), and the community shunned them for it. I just can't remember if its https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ or https://www.privacytools.io/

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The bad one is privacytools.

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[–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I switched to KeePass for the same reason. The only way I trust software is if they'll show me the code, and the only reason to replace "transparency" with "trust" IMHO is because they want to go closed source. Innovation also tends to just mean 'we're going to be charging you for features that used to be free '

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It much work to get all the names and passwords and stuff from BW moved over to keepass?

[–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not really, just had to install KeePass on my computer and export my bitwarden passwords BW makes that easy to do) and import them to KeePass. I haven't set up the browser extension yet, as at a glance it says it doesn't work with browsers installed with flatpak and that's how I have LibreWolf installed. Setting up syncthing was also pretty straightforward.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago

Sweet. Thanks.

I never use browser extension for my pwm anyway. Just the pwm apk on my phone and thats about it. Seems less likely for any shenanigans to happen that way.

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[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bitwarden was taken over by private equity just before these changes btw

price almost doubled; it's $19.80 a year now. Still cheaper than 1pass or lastpass, which are $3/month. I don't think they would increase to that much, because 1pass is objectively better.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Totally agree. I've been a multi-year paying customer of bitwarden for the family, always happy with their service, especially when compared with the 1pass I use at work. But that CEO avatar picture alone gives me enough bad vibes, let alone his credentials, the acronym change, so yea I too reckon I've been putting off the switch long enough now.

I came from keepass, can't go back there, even if I now have syncthing set up everywhere. Also, how would that work for the family, you force everyone to set up their own file and hope they manage it well? Highly doubtful.

I saw aliasvault pop up too, this last week. Haven't looked into it yet, and although a great contender, it's probably too young to seriously consider.

These are the alternatives according to selfh.st/apps :

  • Vaultwarden
  • Password Pusher
  • KeePassXC
  • Passbolt
  • Infisical
  • OpenBao
  • YeetFile
  • AliasVault
  • OrigamiVault

Anyone here had some bad experiences with any of these?

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[–] BrilliantBadger@piefed.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Migrated to Keepass shortly before the price increase ( not because of it) just for the reason of wanting my vault fully offline. Seeing these changes at BW still makes me sad, was a long time paying user & truly enjoyed it

Keepass is fantastiic, my vault is pretty static so just manually copy to other device as needed. And of course, have your full backup plan in place as with all things

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

didn't KeepassXC go full into vibe coding?

https://lemmy.world/post/47036606/23815574

otherwise that would be the most appealing alternative to me too

[–] CrumblyLiquid@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean they recently posted a pretty reasonable explanation about their usage of AI (https://keepassxc.org/blog/2025-11-09-about-keepassxcs-code-quality-control/ ).

I'm not sure what the guy in your link is referring to since he didn't provide any additional context.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

thanks, I haven't seen this before

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well that would make sense. I was actually going to switch to bitwarden back in May after keepassxc decided to corrupt my entire database along with the backup. I had to begin the lengthy process of resetting every single password I have, I was pretty furious and never wanted to touch keepassxc again. But when I went to bitwarden's website I noticed only paid options, so I decided to continue researching alternatives.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago

So still has these issues. Glad I went to vsultwarden.

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