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Youre right, Hillary. Just like you cost us in 2016 with your run. It should have been Bernie.
It wasn't just "her run"....
It's that she set up a secret deal during the primary where her campain funded thebDNC and in exchange she got final authority on anything the DNC said...
But the real problem was 2009 when Obama ignored the DNC instead of naming a progressive chair. Dude just didn't do anything with the DNC because he was mad they were biased against him. Despite the fact that he could have handed anyone he wanted the keys.
Just like you cost us in 2016 with your run.
She speaks from experience.
And Hillary's election bid cost us the 2016 election. She ready to own that yet?
Maybe they should let the people decide the candidate instead of a “coronation“ because it’s “her turn” or selecting the candidate because you didn’t have time for a primary. I swear if they pick Kamala again they might as well just dissolve the Democratic Party. I’m tired of this not actually listening to what the people are begging for and selecting these boring milquetoast candidates who won’t tell the billionaires or Israel to fuck right off. Find a candidate who will address things like housing, inflation, green energy, privacy, corruption, etc and you’ll win elections.
Given the history of the last decade and a half, any prediction for the future is likely to be very wrong, but I think we may be at a very interesting moment where Israel undermines Trump's efforts to surrender to Iran, and as a result Trump might actually take steps to distance himself from Israel.
The dems could find themselves with not only their preexisting fealty to AIPAC driving them but now a need to take the opposing position as Republicans. If Republicans find themselves for once on the right side of this issue, at a time when Americans are waking up to it, it could be a political disaster for dems.
I think it's far fetched as it would just as likely splinter the R party, but it remains a critical example of Dems being out of touch.
So was yours, Hillary. So was yours.
Why are we still interviewing Hillary Clinton?
What a twat. She is the reason trump got in first. They keep running these shitheads like clinton and blame anyone but themselves for their mistakes. Just like their friends on the other side of their one party system the republicans.
she would know a thing or two about winning elections for fascists.
Yes, we all saw it in real time
HRC needs to shut up and fuck off.
She's as corrupt as it gets.
She was probably trotted out with this message because she's powerless and disposable. People get sick of James Carville being trotted out to do this stuff all the time. You have to mix it up a little with other washed out nobodies who still want to get paid.
Naw, just an ideologically bankrupt corporate-lackey centrist, that's all.
OK, explain more ?
pot calling the kettle corrupt
Did Hilary Clinton speak out against Biden's re-election bid? I don't recall her or any other Democratic leaders such as Obama telling Biden not to run. They should have told Biden not to run and if he rejected urge other Democrats to run against him.
I don’t recall her or any other Democratic leaders such as Obama telling Biden not to run. They should have told Biden not to run
Then you've forgotten your history or were too young to see it. Obama did tell him not to run. Publicly. Repeatedly. In both 2019 and 2024. Obama knew he was a puppeted idiot and not up to the job.
https://www.gq.com/story/obama-to-biden-dont-run
the only reason Biden won his first term was that Trump was so ridiculously awful that he made awful Biden's run possible. Everyone seems to have just forgotten that Biden was the republicans favorite dem and an open segregationist supporter. Biden gave the euology at a KKK "Exalted Cyclops" funeral.
And he was virulently anti gay until the millisecond Obama tapped him to be VP and told him to cut it out. And he's been the #1 recipient of AIPAC bribes over the entire course of his career. He's utterly bought and paid for, and the receipts are public.
Biden wasnt the "only one who could defeat trump", he was the most awful politician the dnc could get away with running considering they were running against trump. This is exactly how they play you and you cant seem to see it.
Are you sure? From https://www.newsweek.com/obama-telling-biden-leave-race-could-backfire-1924518
In the aftermath of his troubling debate performance last month, Biden has faced an onslaught of criticism from members of his own party and even his allies who have publicly questioned his ability to serve another term. As the list of Democrats calling for Biden to step aside grows, former President Barack Obama has remained silent.
yes I'm sure. Did you read the article you posted? It says the two are always at odds, and goes on to say that Biden also urged him not to run in 2016 as well. I dont think this is the proof you wanted. It says he has remained silent in this one situation but that he has urged him not to run before and that /bidens camp feels that Obamas camp always looks down on them. It does refute anything from the other articles about Obama noit supporting Biden's candidacy. if anything you backed up my case.
"As the Democratic Party's recent intraparty drama plays out, many have recalled the tense relationship between Obama and Biden. It has been widely reported that Biden regrets listening to Obama and others in the party who urged him not to run for the White House in 2016"
But why would the article mention that Obama has remained silent if he has been publicly urging Biden not to run? From https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/18/did-obama-tell-biden-to-quit-what-the-former-president-said/74458139007/
He’s been publicly supportive of Biden but also said that he’s concerned over polls and donors moving away from him over the past weeks.
Obama and Biden have reportedly spoken only once since late June.
Obama has, however, emphasized that he does not want to unduly influence Biden’s decision and has not made any public comments in favor of his leaving the race.
No. Really?
Clinton argued that had Biden announced in late summer 2023 that he would not run, a genuine Democratic primary would have produced a stronger nominee...“I believe whoever emerged from that contest, whether it was the vice-president or a governor or a senator or anybody else, would have beaten Donald Trump,”
I doubt it. I doubt Democrat voters could have come to a consensus on a candidate. Leftists/progressives just want different things than liberals. I think liberals are so far removed from what the majority of Americans want that they're just political poison, especially in a general election. But, while some of the progressives' economic populist messages resonate with a lot of Americans, a lot of the progressives' messages on social issues do not. I don't know who would have emerged from that mess who would have done any better than Kamala.
I actually agree with her. Participation matters. Primaries are important.
she's just saying what every single dem voter knows. You dont agree with her, she agrees with you. A few years too late, but better late than never.
Doing better than Kamala would have been easy. Even 2023 Kamala would have beaten 2024 Kamala. I think Walz is still the most likely VP, but I think Mark Kelly or Mayor Pete lead the ticket.
One of he biggest mistakes the Harris campaign made was to be just "Joe Biden Lite".
Plus a Biden without the baggage of a 2024 campaign could have done A LOT more.
Democrats might have fought and complained, but come fall 2024 I suspect they would have been happy enough with their choice. Sure it may have been a Clinton 2020 situation, but probably better off.
But, while some of the progressives' economic populist messages resonate with a lot of Americans, a lot of the progressives' messages on social issues do not.
The problem is that a third of Americans are indoctrinated into thinking that progressive economic and social policies are communist and immoral, respectively.
First time any DNC dem has admitted Bidens genocide support was unpopular with Dem voters. Feels like a big pivot.