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[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 55 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Interesting how the majority of the comments refer to you being monitored on your own phone, ignoring that you will be monitored on everyone else's phone as well.

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Probably something people aren't thinking about. How would this even work in two party consent states/countries?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

The same way slopgen cleverly went around seemingly unbendable coryright laws: by ignoring the shit out of it, and half-scaring half-bribing the governments and the public to allow them to do whatever the fuck they want.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 260 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Reason n+1 for me being thankful for switching to GrapheneOS.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (9 children)

How’s the app support? I want to switch if/when the Motorola phones come out, but I’m wondering how many of my apps/services I’ll have to abandon.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 2 points 22 hours ago

I am yet to find any app that doesn't work.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 74 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (24 children)

Almost everything just works after installing sandboxed Google Play Services. For a few apps you have to tweak a setting to turn off some of GrapheneOS's exploit protections. But I've found very few that refuse to run, and nothing indispensable. If you don't like your main profile having Play Services you can set them up under a second profile or a private area and keep the apps that use them away from your main profile.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 78 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The people who called me crazy because "there's no way your phone can be listening in on you all the time" are the same people who are going to be the most excited about this "feature"

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How did these people expect "Hey Siri" / "Hey Google" to work?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (19 children)

Im a perfect world, as they claim, its a secondary system listening that isn't recording or transmitting anything, and is meant to be low power. If it hears the wake up word, it wakes up the other mic and starts recording.

Thats how they claim the smart speakers work anyway.

This would be different.

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[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft introduces "Recall" spyware the world goes mad, Google and Apple do something similar and it's mostly silence.

I'm not defending Microsoft but it just shows the double standards between the trust in these corporations.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

At this stage there should be more people up in arms and onto the streets.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 68 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Constant surveillance 😡

Audio memories 😍

[–] meejle@piefed.world 16 points 6 days ago

BIG BROTHER IS ~~WATCHING YOU~~
HELPING YOU REMEMBER YOUR IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This will be quite illegal in all countries and states that require 2 party consent at minimum.

Incoming Google lawsuits in 3, 2, 1.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

lol. they are exempt from copyright, they will be somehow exempt from this too.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 61 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If a song isn’t recognized, a short digital fingerprint may be sent to Google to securely search the cloud. Background conversations and audio are never sent to Google.

And, of course, Google will honor this and any other setting, as always, right? Right?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 days ago

As soon as they got away with "federated learning" (basically use your phone to train ai then just phone the results home rather than your data) 🤢 they knew they could just keep pushing and pushing and pushing until they have it all

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 120 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Welcome to your "I only buy vintage tech" era.

Mine started when 3.5 mm audio jacks started disappearing. We all draw a line.

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 99 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Motorola needs to release those GrapheneOS compatible phones now 💀

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

OK, how do you disable it permanently? Besides Graphene or mobile Linux?

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (16 children)
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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS, asap Pixel owners.

Thank me later.

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 days ago

I saw this title and immediately said "fuck off" then clicked, and ..glad to see OP sharing my immediate sentiment.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Because all of their customers were clamoring for such a "feature"?

Of course, it will have the option of being "turned off".

I mean, we've all long suspected our phones are listening to us anyway, why not make it into a "feature".

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

JFC, I don't need tech tracking every goddamn word and fart.

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[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 43 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Honestly, I thought they already did that.

One of my motivations for becoming more privacy minded, was the amount of times a subject of conversation was delivered through an algorithm later.

It was creepy, talk about hose pipes> receive hosepipe content/ads.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck you Pichai you fucking banchode.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

TIL what a banchode is….

“Banchode” (often spelled “banchod” or “benchode”) is a vulgar Hindi/Gujarati slang insult roughly meaning “sister-fucker,” similar in strength to “motherfucker” in English.

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[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago

Fucking yikes

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago

Do not want

[–] db2@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago (33 children)

I already get "random" ads for things that were only part of a verbal conversation that happened to be near the phone.

What I want is a physical kill switch for the mic and camera, less surveillance not more.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

“There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” — Mario Savio, 1964

[–] iterable@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Dumb phones are about to start trending more and more every day.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

The internet is becoming a hostile place, filled with predators and hazards, a privilege only of the wealthy, the powerful and their slaves, was not on my bingo card for things I'd live through. I feel I may have no choice but to genuinely disconnect from all of it in my private life.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is really about training AI, isn’t it. They’ve tapped nearly all the sources of human text output already, so now they want to create as much more of it as possible, as quickly as possible. They will tap into conversations and use it as a new data source, mark my words.

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[–] c64z86@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This would be such a cool thing, too bad it will only be used to scrape our data in order to sell us more ads. There are far too many technologies and concepts that have been ruined already due to bloody greed.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Hey, don't be so pessimistic.

For sure it will be available for government agencies to subpoena or even outright purchase.

This is the free market. Everything about you is for sale.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 30 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Any soviet officials still alive must be going crazy: "wait, they actually pay to be surveilled???"

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[–] oats@piefed.zip 47 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Illegal in Germany. You may not record conversations, if you try to enter something like that as evidence you'll get punished as well.

I suspect there are many countries with laws like that, and if your phone actually disables the feature when you enter them or just let's you hang to dry...

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 42 points 6 days ago

Um, oh fuck no.

The reams of personally-identifiable information that will leak is insane.

We're not allowed to have Siri and Alexa listening when we're working, lest a stray word on a phone call from the home office risks a privacy breach.

[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Even if no one else could access it because it stayed on my device, I'm sure it'll be used for categorizing "advertising cohort" stuff again.

It sucks having to be so skeptical. With my severe ADHD something like this would be enormously helpful for remembering conversations others I talk to remember just fine but I don't.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

So what could be a really useful thing is now just a 24/7 surveilance device that will record everything, even when you have sex, when you talk about fantasies and so on.

I guarantee you that in no time the justice department will be interested in having access to all that

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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 29 points 6 days ago

Thank god I have Graphene.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago

I love the idea. Having a sortable, searchable list of everything that hits my plate day to day would be an awesome boon, I simply don't want anyone else to have that data :(

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