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Boy, the good ole days are gone when it comes to Windows. I am posting just to help anybody that doesn't know. This is like a creepy wire tap. If you are actually using Windows 11, make sure to disable and or reduce telemetry in Windows 11 (Privacy). If that actually helps, I am sure there are more ways they send data back but the video link is a simple how to for the telemetry. Here is more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtg_s1GQiMU

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[–] JustinianTheLarge@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Any idea about Win11 IoT LTSC? I use that in a VM, pretty nice, very barebones OTB, I use CTT tuner to just remove microslop edge.

[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

ITT: a lot of people trying really hard to justify their use cases for Windows.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Look, I hate Windows; literally the only device I have that isn't Linux is my work laptop, and I purposefully leave it at the office. But this thread isn't the place to bring up Windows hate. Someone's trying to do a good thing with what they have, and, idk, doesn't seem the time or place to get converts ig.

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The Windows 11 cope...

[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

My reason is really simple: replacing Windows with Bazzite or whatever would be a lot of effort. If W11 ever bricks itself or does something hideously invasive (that I can't disable or opt out of) then it becomes less of an effort than maintaining the status quo, and thus switching becomes the obvious choice.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 2 points 27 minutes ago

It's very very easy to install Linux. Only moderately difficult to dual boot

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Linux doesn't even require installation, they use LiveCDs that you can use as temporary OS's. They are also used to permanently install them if you'd like to do that.

There's a guy at my local library that brings his own OS to use on the public computers, and just saves stuff on removable storage.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

We all have our limits - yours is a fair point of ease vs inconvenience. I think that is the market dominant force. That being said with how far any distro has come since I started messing around in 98.... It's close to being that easy.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I had prepared everything to migrate to Linux, cause of this video I finally did so. Installed Bazzite. It went incredible smooth!

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 54 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

how to disable telemetry in windows 11

Install Linux

[–] yuman@programming.dev 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'm gonna piggyback off of this to remind everyone to install OpenSnitch and go through the iinitial and super-tedious approve/deny outgoing connections.

there's stuff on linux that, despite being perfectly offline capable and having turned off everything related to clown sync and remote check this and that, still phones home.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Like auto updates? Usage survey? Or something Canonical?

[–] yuman@programming.dev 1 points 45 minutes ago

I'm not that interested to find out what exactly it's doing. it suffices that I was explicit about fuck no don't do none of that and it's still outbound.

like the latest one I blocked is QownNotes. everything related to online is turned off yet it still wants to connect to api.qownnotes.com.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I mean most things are just timeserver checks or poking GitHub/flathub/repo servers. Not something you can fully prevent if you value seamless functionality. Fedora has an opt out telemetry ping just to see how many people are using each version, but it comes part of when you run an update and ping their servers for that anyways. If you want it all removed and still have good functionality I really recommend secureblue

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Glad I got out two years ago. Never going back.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean the good old days of Windows? When does it been doing this for decades bro.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I used to sell pcs at Sears back the day. There was this one weird family I sold a 486DX to and the wanted just one more peripheral..a scanner. You could return entire pc purchases at Sears up to 3 years later depending on how loud you'd yell... Us sales guys would lose the commission and we were straight commission those days so I got into pcs by keeping my stuff sold. They had to have a scanner and I went out to support ... Every trick in the book with himem and config..memory optimizers ... Couldn't get that IRQ .. all my tech buds tried too. Finally I gave them a free (pre release cus we had it for weeks) copy of win 95 all set up - because it could assign all those resources effortlessly without one text file. Windows wasn't always purely evil.

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Windows XP was the best for me.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Dude in your hilarious if you think Windows XP wasn't sending out telemetrics as well.

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That being said I'm impressed with Linux Mint.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That being said I like Ubuntu for my smart tv that's a old IMac

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

It's probably very snappy on it.

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Not as bad, I didn't even use the internet on XP anyway. I was a poor boy, from a poor family...

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (13 children)

PSA, for people sticking to Windows:

You can get a reasonable level of privacy by installing Windows Enterprise via RUFUS, which also has options for removing restrictions during installation. Massgravel is used to activate your copy of Windows, the Github also having .ISOs for you to use with RUFUS.

ShutUp10 is a piece of software that goes a step further, allowing you to toggle off many bad things, uninstall Microsoft's AI, and gives a description of what you are tweaking does. The premium version also automatically applies your settings at all times, reverting Microsoft's constant tweaking of your settings.

RUFUS

Massgravel

ShutUp10

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I recently attempted my 2nd migration to Linux through ZorinOS, but that didn't work out. There are still issues with reliability and user friendliness. As a power casual, there were too many jagged edges to let me feel good about daily driving Linux. Hopefully, SteamOS will change that within three or four years. Linux will someday be our solution to the Microsoft problem, but that year hasn't yet arrived.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago

There are still issues with reliability and user friendliness. As a power casual, there were too many jagged edges to let me feel good about daily driving Linux.

Something is very wrong with Zorin then.

Reliability and user friendliness are why I use linux. I work from home, I can't afford to have a computer not be reliable. Its why I use linux, it works, it doesnt change unless I do. As for user friendliness, windows is extremely hostile to decent work flows. It is user unfriendly.

Linux will someday be our solution to the Microsoft problem, but that year hasn’t yet arrived.

It arrived for me about 20 years ago. Your statement is ridiculous today.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

This is my current solution too, while Win10's extended support period lasts... I really hope Adobe will support Linux (or a working emulator is made) by the time I need to leave Win10, because I don't want to touch Win11 with an 11-foot pole lol

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 16 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

There is zero reason to use Windows now. Linux has gotten so good that even a noob can install distros like Ubuntu and Mint. I have Linux running as my main on an old Zephyrus laptop after it arbitrarily installed W11 without my permission or prompting. Windows is spyware and gets isolated in my network.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd recommend putting more time into switching to Linux instead of pirating Enterprise versions of Windows and then installing and configuring a bunch of third-party software that is supposed to stop Microsoft from doing all the Microsoft things we don't like. That seems like it's a lot of work and effort too, plus they are actively hostile towards users instead of just "not ready".

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Windows: constantly having to apply patches and run tools to combat the privacy violations.

Linux: install once, run updates regularly, never have to worry about the constant privacy issues.

I appreciate that those tools exist for de-bloating Windows, but that sounds like a giant pain in the ass.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There is zero reason to use Windows now.

Apparently accessability tools are still lacking for people with vision impairments compared to windows, especially on Wayland.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 3 points 10 hours ago

This is a rough one. Accessibility is severely lacking in so many tools and interfaces.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

zero for you perhaps, but I unfortunately need Adobe InDesign and Illustrator (and Photoshop but that has more alternatives), or similar software that has the many professional features I use

also need my games and mods to run on Linux... currently ProtonDB says my Steam library is 51% platinum and gold, and then I haven't even addressed older or online games

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[–] voxel@feddit.org 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

You're delusional (saying this as a long time tech support for various new Linux users)

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

a while ago, i watched a youtube video that opened wireshark on brand new installs of ubuntu and windows with no other apps open
comparing a paid operating system and a free operating system that has been said to have privacy issues

guess which one sent 500 packets in under 2 minutes

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