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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

I mean really JFK was when the aristocracy just got fed up with the concept and ended the charade

[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Representive democracy is deprecated anyway. Its just too easy to bribe 300-600 politicians. We should have had direct democracy for 20 years.

You could vote on bills that are important to you directly and hand everything else to your representative. Via internet you could change things on a daily basis if they start to act weird.

For stubborn boomers, they could forfeit their voting rights for the entire legislature to their favourite ~~influencer~~ politician. If thats what tickles their fancy.

Buuuut they dont want this because thats their living. And its a good one with all those bribes and market manipulation. This isnt new for trump and this is not only a conservative problem.

[–] aeiou@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Representive democracy is deprecated anyway. Its just too easy to bribe 300-600 politicians. We should have had direct democracy for 20 years.

Yes, but as Fox News and the like has taught us it is, unfortunately, also easy to mass-manipulate ten million idiots, and people tend to react before they have facts.

Harder than representatives, though!

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Direct democracy is too easy to manipulate. Sortition is the way.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe the Haudenosaunee Confederation was fairly close.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Still is. The Six Nations have been doing their thing for 3-5 times longer than China

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, we don't get to actually vote for the judge assholes who take our rights or his orangeness' who also takes our rights. What else?

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We didn't have genuine rights before he got into office.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even with “No Kings” protests—the whole name of the protest is the idea that our Founding Fathers said no to monarchy, to tyrants, and threw that off. What is more accurate is that they didn’t want to be colonial subjects themselves but still wanted to be an empire. They just wanted to be the center of power of that empire.

There it is. The rot at the core of liberalism. They didn't want to be subjects of a king, because they wanted to be kings themselves, of their own private kingdoms with their own subjects. They owned large amounts of land, possessed incredible wealth and they owned slaves who labored for them. You know, like a king.

This mentality is still very much alive today in liberalism. Many corporations are like the private kingdoms of men with the ambition of creating a personal empire, with all the power, control, and domination that goes along with it. And liberals don't just tolerate this, they celebrate it. Because these wanna-be god emperors are "innovators" and "job creators," in the minds of liberals.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whyyyyy do you keep saying liberals are doing these things, as if conservatives are not, even harder?

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Liberalism is the philosophical ideology that underlies capitalism.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, of course, and so no one but liberals are taking part in or responsible for capitalism as we know it.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm not using liberal as in people who identify as politically "liberal" in the US. I'm talking about adherents of the philosophy of Liberalism.

[–] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

"Conservative" is not a political ideology, it is a branding term. The Democrats and the old guard of Republicans are both Liberal parties. This is why establishment DNC fights their own party's left wing more than the Republicans, as they represent an actually different ideology. *The TEA party/Trump folks/ conspiracy RNC is a Fascist political movement

[–] svdasein@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This divisive "team" stuff needs to end. You know who really loves this garbage? Billionaires. They pay to make sure we pleebs keep doing it so we don't notice that they're robbing us blind. We are all on team plebian serf. The sooner we pull it together the sooner we can start fixing the issue.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago

You're wasting your time talking to this guy, he is obviously arguing in bad faith.