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(In your opinion)

I'm using DDG, but I'm not satisfied with it. The quality of answers is subpar and I find myself switching to google or LLMs when I'm researching some things where community opinion matter (for some reason reddit and forums are undervalued by DDG algorithm).

I could try daily driving alternatives, but I know I will be biased and it will noticably slow down my workflows.

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[–] newton@feddit.online 1 points 51 minutes ago
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Just ask me. I will tell you.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Kagi. People pay for it for a reason.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

i kinda like google the most cus its the most comprehensive but in reality the pages im missing from qwant are just slop i wouldnt need anyway

qwant also doesnt spy on you and is hosted in europe so im going with qwant as my answer :)

hoping they can expand their own search index as much as possible as soon as possible so they can ditch bing for good

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

On ddg I just type reddit when I want community stuff, but I know what you mean. I also still find myself using google for local stuff because yelp fucking sucks.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

ecosia seemed to work slightly better than ddg for me recently, but there's some controversies regarding their greenwashing and union busting

qwant seems to be pretty good but they geoblock specific countries including mine. it works through a vpn tho

startpage is just google

etools.ch is quite nice, even works without javascript but somehow they're not so popular..

yandex is decent quality wise, but i get endless captchas from them for some reason

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 30 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Kagi in my experience is the best, but $$

Brave is a close second, but crypto bro

SearXNG is great, but only if you self host to avoid throttling

Most of the rest use Bing under the hood so they're all about the same

[–] iceberg314@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What's the connection between Brave and crypto?

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/

Take your pick, there's probably a zillion other articles like this, but the jist is a long history of scummy behavior.

Crypto specifically: BAT, their crypto tokens, and highjacking crypto referral links.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi is worth every penny. Superb results.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

10€/mo for unlimited searches is a bit too high. They could lower the price by selling the AI features under an additional subscription.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 hours ago

That's way too much for a search engine for personal use IMO

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I mean I certainly wouldn't mind paying less, but it is something I use every day, I get way more value out of my Kagi subscription than literally any other subscription I have except maybe Home Assistant.

I haven't tried it so I can't speak to the value proposition but Uruky is the new competition, weighing in at half the price: https://uruky.com/

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

first time i'm hearing about uruky. this policy in their main page is very interesting

True ownership and validation After 12 months as a paying customer, you get a copy of the source code.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 4 points 13 hours ago

I have tried Uruky, it is nowhere near as polished or good as Kagi, but at least it is european.

If the search index gets better, I could consider it. But at the moment the european search engines and the european search index it uses are not good enough for daily use, at least for me.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 hours ago

Do you need unlimited searches? You get 300 searches a month for $5.

Plus it's 10% off if you pay annually.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough; I respect that. But I’d pay twice as much if they asked, because I value it so much. Not just the results, but the dedication to keeping the results uncluttered without forcing advertising or selling my eyes to advertisers. I dig it.

Like sending Wikimedia money every time they ask; worth it.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 hours ago

They have a plan for $25 if you want to pay them twice as much 😋

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Altavista circa 1999. Google stole the crown and was good for a long while after that, but it's intentionally worse now than Altavista was back then.

If someone like DuckDuckGo could get their heads out of their cloacas long enough to fix the + and - features for "must contain" and "must not contain", they could easily steal that crown.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

I mean I certainly prefer seach where I get a little blurb giving me an idea what the link is to. Im not sure I want to go back to alta vista or dogpile.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

I can't tell if I genuinely agree or if it's the nostalgia goggles doing the thinking.

[–] mereo@piefed.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I host SearXNG on my home server, and I configured it to provide better results than Google.

I tried Kagi. It's nice, but the price is a bit high for a search engine.

[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

How do you "configure it to provide better results than Google"? Not trying to call you out, but I assume your measure of what is better is highly subjective. If it would be down to simple config changes to get quality superior to Google search, OP wouldn't have to ask this question.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

These aren't what I would call 'best,' just supplemental when the best isn't cutting it.

Marginalia is pretty decent. I like that it lets you specifically search forums, wikis, blogs, or academia.

https://wiby.me/ is good for exploring old-school sites. This is more of an answer to "how do I 'surf the web' in 2026?" than what you're probably asking for. (The search itself is very keyword-y with no attempt to guess at relevance.)

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

Ooh, thanks for the tip on Wiby, gonna try that out later :-)

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Ooh, thanks for the tip on Wiby, gonna try that out later :-)

[–] vpklotar@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I'd join the others here recommending Kagi if you can stomach the price. I've tried quite a few over the years but have now been on Kagi for over 2 years and can't really see myself going back. Nothing I've tried comes close. And this is coming from someone that hates subscriptions and self host pretty much everything.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 14 hours ago

SearxNG is the only way I know of to get reasonably good results.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago
[–] yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

Used to use Brave, but I read some shady stuff and hate the crypto. I've switched to Startpage, as far as I know they're doing good and gets the job done for me.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I find myself going back and fourth between Qwant and DDG

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi if you're rich, a combo of DDG and https://searxng.website/ if you're poor.

[–] dwt@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Depends on what you are searching. DuckDuckGo can be great, if you can use the shortcuts that search directly on other Sites.