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[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean Lebensraum was just the Nazi version of Manifest Destiny.

The Nazi's great crime, in the eyes of other Europeans, wasn't that they did all that stuff, it's they did it to other white people

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

America was also racist against white people (such as the Irish) once upon a time.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

USA only supported prohibition when it was sold to voters as a measure against European immigrants from Ireland, Germany and Italy.

You want to do anything in the USA politically, just target immigrants.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

the Irish weren't white when they were being discriminated against. they assimilated into whiteness.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

America has always been susceptible to fascism. FDR merely mitigated the worst of America at that time.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yep. And European colonialism was the blueprint for everything the US did, and so on and so forth, going all the way back to before recorded history.

This is nothing new. The history of our species would indicate that it's in our nature to destroy ourselves.

It is silly that anyone thinks any of this is new, especially after living through the War on Terror when Bush and Obama disappeared people into black sites and torture facilities and set up the infrastructure for later presidents and tech companies to collect data on and profile everyone in the US without any limits or guardrails.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Everytime I see a cop riding a horse t think of guts from berserk slicing of their finger legs

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thought this was hexbear for a moment 🤣

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hexbear sucks because they're hypocrites, not because they're wrong about the usa

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How are Hexbear hypocrites?

[–] timdrake@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because they don't support Pol Pot.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pol Pot apologia is fucking crazy lmaooo

[–] timdrake@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Knows nothing about Democratic Kampuchea award

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ok, I was making fun of you earlier, but now I'm genuinely interested.

Explain to me why you think Democratic Kampuchea was a Socialist State, and I presume, didn't actually commit a genocide.

Because as far as I've ever been able to tell, pol pot apologia tends to be fairly flimsy, and be coming more from a place of defending China's position after the Sino-Soviet split, rather than Cambodia itself.

How about the Vietnamese-backed state of the People's Republic of Kampuchea? Was it Socialist? Why or why not?

[–] timdrake@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago

There is no strict definition of a “socialist state.” DK was led by a communist party which set out concrete plans for developing a self-sufficient “socialist economy” and a “socialist culture” and was able to follow through on some of those in its short time. There is nothing that makes it “non-socialist” in comparison to other projects.

I presume, didn’t actually commit a genocide

You can presume that based on the fact that the allegation of genocide clearly violates the meaning of the word.

How about the Vietnamese-backed state of the People’s Republic of Kampuchea? Was it Socialist?

I don’t see why not.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yea no, I'm not a Pol Pot defender.

[–] timdrake@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The only way I can imagine you don’t defend Pol Pot, as a communist, in any regard is if you don’t actually hold to the notion of taking back communist history from “bourgeois historiography”™ and not automatically accepting prepared narratives. "Historical idealism" in the sense Losurdo talks about in "Hegel, Marx, and the Ontology of Social Being."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 14 hours ago

Pol Pot admitted to not being a communist, had an agrarian focus, committed what I would consider to be genocide against Vietnamese and pro-Vietnamese Cambodians, and was pro-US and supported by them. I can't support that.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Lol. So you can't actually explain

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

This is a non-answer, I don't see how users on Lemmy.ml nor Hexbear.net are hypocrites. This is a vague jab at users on Marxist-friendly instances without the specificity needed to make an actual claim.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Stupid liberals, opposing Nazis. What a bunch of maroons! /s

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To the extent that liberals have historically combated fascism, they've always been the last ones to the Nazi Bashing party.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what? They're opposing Nazis now, so for the moment they could be allies. What is this scolding supposed to achieve, other than in-group virtue signaling?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

They’re opposing Nazis now

Are they though? Half of them are still supporting Israel, most of the rest are supporting the fascist DNC

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

They are not opposing Nazis, they just want to be the ones doing Nazi shit