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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU NAZI FUCK

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

one X user claimed the website was "anti-free speech" after he said he was banned from the "comics" subreddit for denying that the tech mogul did a Nazi salute

That sounds like pro truth rather than "anti free speech", no?

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Free speech means having to read and hear things you don't like or disagree with every now and again. I personally think bans should be restricted to hate speech or else we'll sleep walk in to an echo chamber.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Moderators on a private website don't actually have to put up with Nazi liars.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nice opinion, you're entitled to that!

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Learn the definition of "opinion."

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Opinion:

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge

What's your point? Other than trying to discredit me by insinuating I'm an idiot?

I never thought that endorsing the freedom of speech would be so controversial!

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, this is a much more dire educational lack than a single word. You can't even parse the meaning of a sentence. Sorry, kid.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

asks definition of a wordwhen given the definition moves the goal posts in an incredibly condescending way.

Why don't you stop criticising me as a person and say what you want to say in plain English?

I take it you can't articulate your problem with my argument and that's why you have a problem with me instead.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, that's fine, but what you are doing is equating everyone that expresses a different opinion on musks salute to a Nazi, and whilst I understand why that is a popular opinion here, I don't think it's entirely helpful.

You could say it's your opinion that they are gullible, delusional, easily misled or whatever else, let me know when democracy, the rule of law and human rights are being infringed and let's talk.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're arguing it wasn't a Nazi salute you either never saw it on purpose or you're lying. Either way it's a sign you're a bad person and probably shouldn't be given a platform to spread hate. Sorry that's so complicated!

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not arguing about Musk here, I'm arguing whether people should be allowed to express themselves.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ultimately, the only person that knows if that was a Nazi salute is musk.

As well as every person who saw him do it. It's clear as fucking day and you're lying about it. Why?

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's an opinion. I'm not saying it was, I'm not saying it wasn't, I'm expressing some level of doubt, nothing more nothing less.

But I'm not here to talk about musk's salute, I'm here to say people are entitled to an opinion.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not an opinion to say something never happened. Do you think arguing the Holocaust is a myth is just a matter of opinion, and everyone should be entitled to talk about how fake the Holocaust is and how Jews are the devil actually at all times, because that's just freedom of speech?

People are entitled to an opinion. People are not entitled to lie in public to spread hate. You are lying in public to spread hate right now. Stop it.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not getting drawn in to the debate of wether it was or wasn't.

I'm defending people's rights to have an opinion without being labeled a Nazi by default because it trivialises the awful crimes commited in WWII.

Denying the holocaust is a crime in some countries, and with good reason. Let me know when we're not allowed to discuss the actions of Musk.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not getting drawn in to the debate of wether it was or wasn't.

That is the entire topic of discussion. Why don't you go take a break, you seem to be having a hard time.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'd argue that whilst it is the source of the debate that I'm currently only interested in the tangential discussion regarding freedom of speech and whether it is ok to label someone a Nazi because you disagree with them.

You can discuss Musk with other people, I'm not interested.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can tell, you'd rather argue he's not a Nazi without discussing his Nazi salute.

You don't give a fuck about freedom of speech.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm done here, have a nice day.

[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Bu bye nazi

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Reddit continues to be anti-free speech," Cedric Hohnstadt said on X. "I just got a lifetime ban from the 'comics' subreddit. Yesterday, I posted a humor comic that got over 5,400 upvotes. Then I noticed that there was a pinned post from the moderators saying that comics linked from X could no longer be shared because Musk gave a Nazi salute. I commented saying no he didn't. The moderator accused me of being pro-Nazi, banned me permanently for life, and deleted all my past posts from the 'comics' subreddit. But somehow Elon Musk is the totalitarian?" The post has been viewed 3.7 million times.

Amazing that a blind man can draw comics.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Truly inspiring

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It sucks to get banned for life from somewhere you love for doing something you didn't feel was wrong, but holy hell, Musk absolutely threw up a Nazi salute.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

No, you're wrong.

He threw TWO Nazi salutes. Elon Musk does two Nazi Seig Heil Salutes