I don't know that anyone who has participated in the murder and oppression of others to maintain business interests and dollar hegemony are exactly "good."
~~Right~~Reich-wing activist James O'Keefe
Oh, this guy again. Go figure.
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I don't know that anyone who has participated in the murder and oppression of others to maintain business interests and dollar hegemony are exactly "good."
~~Right~~Reich-wing activist James O'Keefe
Oh, this guy again. Go figure.
I appreciate his continual commitment to being a guy that needs to be hit with a brick. Really impressive work to be this much of a shitbag consistently.
But anyone participates by paying taxes. Let’s add “willingly” to your comment.
Then I can only guess this argument leads to everyone, who might even be swayed by a protest sign, quitting- and instead holding protest signs?
I think both are required. What’s your answer if not internal opposition?
Relativity is a thing.
Much of leftists are too quick to deny the feasibility of infiltration and take overs. That's why they're feverishly revolutionist. Which, isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's still good to recognize that spies on the inside are good
The right loves censorship.
I wonder who the cunt filming was, or if hegseth has bugged the offices looking for dissenters. Either way, it's fucked.
The cunt is James Okeefe, an extremely notorious cunt of the highest order. This is not his first blatant fuckery.
Gotta look out for those telescreens, Winston.
Reminds me of the Soviet Union and people selling out their neighbors. Must be a nightmare to work with these people.
I’m glad he was willing to stick it out. But I believe you need to be careful what you say and don’t trust anyone.
I just hope there's others
F-F-F-F-FASCISM-ISM-ISM-ism-ism
“He insulted Hitler? Well what’d he think, he’d get a promotion?”
The story isn’t the guy at the Pentagon. Well, not that guy anyway.
We’re getting real close to some Kristallnacht bullshit and I sure wish the libs would shoot first
Good to know there’s still good people in the military (1 less now, but this show they’re there).
Not sure I would say that a person that is doing something they admit to know is/was wrong "good people"
I'm conflicted.
On one hand, I think people should leave their positions if they're being used for evil.
On the other hand, how do we adequately resist fascism without people on the inside at the highest levels willing to side against the fascists when the opportunity presents itself?
I'm not absolving this guy for anything he may have contributed to the fascist agenda, but having people on the inside to resist it is necessary. Few of those people will ever be squeaky clean.
On the other other hand, hopefully when people like that leave an organization (military or a company in general) they take a knowledge base and experience with them, making things dumber and less efficient.
But I agree, I'd rather have a mole on the inside doing what good they can to block the march to evil.
They do!
The knowledge base that is leaving are the people that understand that starting random wars is stupid.
I am hoping the people who leave, plan a war against Dogey America. Odds are that we will need to kill the Confederacy again.
But I agree, I’d rather have a mole on the inside doing what good they can to block the march to evil.
If this person was doing that, then I would reconsider my opinion but it looks (from the post) that he was not resisting and just hoping to be around to clean some of the mess later...
The problem here is that his job is not making a bug free video game... his job is ultimately to kill people so I find it hard to accept it is OK for him to do that but just regret it a little and that means he is a good person
So, you prefer the timeline where all honest and good high ranking military either immediately resign in protest, or "resist" which will mean immediate termination and possible charges. Vs the one where they maintain position and stay ready to resit when it might matter?
Absolutely!... if the USA had staged a general strike, the child rapist regime would have ended in 3 months
If the "honest and good" military ranking had put a stop to this, literally THOUSANDS of lives would not have been wasted in vain.
These "honest and good" are not ready to resist... they are simply doing evil things while knowing they are evil things in hopes of what? are they going to rebuild Iran? are they going to the Caribbean to pay reparations for playing target practice with whatever boat they destroyed?
People that think the organization revolves around them are also narcissists. No. When they leave, the inevitable march will continue. The knowledge will be filled- if not now- later, by more fascists.
That’s effectively what this argument leads to. More fascists in the government.
if you have not noticed, an inevitable feature of these fascists is that they are incredibly mediocre… I rather see the military crumble under their ineptitude than help them along the way pretending to be "the good guy"
I’m conflicted.
Completely understandable
On one hand, I think people should leave their positions if they’re being used for evil.
We are not just talking about "evil" here as in "following orders means this washing machine will not be as reliable as I could make it". In this case we are talking about extreme cases as in "following orders means humans will be slaughtered for no reason at all"
On the other hand, how do we adequately resist fascism without people on the inside at the highest levels willing to side against the fascists when the opportunity presents itself?
Is that what is happening? because what I read was that this person disagreed but followed orders anyway, and just the slightest criticism got him canned... how was he resisting fascism in any way?
I’m not absolving this guy for anything he may have contributed to the fascist agenda, but having people on the inside to resist it is necessary. Few of those people will ever be squeaky clean.
Again, I agree but where is the evidence of ANY resistance?
Well, the act of criticism is grounds for immediate dismissal.
So what specific resistance are you looking for? That would not simply be the same as walking away, only with added steps and possible retaliation?
So what specific resistance are you looking for?
They should have literally voiced their concern and refused to follow illegal commands
You cannot pretend to be a good person when you do evil things, knowing they are evil, simply because you want to save your own status...
Not gonna downvote you because that is my immediate gut reaction too. But Trump is actively trying to purge anyone who isn't a fascist bootlicker, and if that happens Trump can literally do anything.
I'm a black/white kind of person and I really struggle with this, but am trying to keep a broader perspective.
But Trump is actively trying to purge anyone who isn’t a fascist bootlicker, and if that happens Trump can literally do anything.
I believe the orange child rapist has already achieved this... what is he not allowed to do?
I understand the concept of what you are saying but this individual was not resisting at all, just begrudgingly doing what his fascist bosses told him to. He was helping fascism just as much as the bootlickers (probably more because those bootlickers tend to be incredibly inept)
Life ain't black and white, and it's extremely callow to expect it.
You have a very naive black-and-white view of the world. I guess that Schindler guy was bad too, huh?
Schindler was actively cheating the Nazis, this guy is apparently just waiting out the storm…
Show me what "good" this guy has done and we'll talk…
How the fuck would you or I know? Did Schindler post his actions somewhere?
FFS. Think.
Cancel culture strikes back.
Draining the swamp, of the beneficial species, so they can continue to infest it with slime.
This is what this country needs. But, they need to keep their mouths shut. Maybe this will remind those remaining to do so.
Perfect opportunity to claim it is AI
They should have promoted him.
We blame politicians all the time for both just leaving their position or still being a part of it, there is no win on just morals before there's some result. And if this person was genuine about being an insider in the nazi bar, he could've learnt how to stay there undetected. Now we are presented with evidence conflicting his story of being secretly a good guy because the good guy part never happened and what we have is a retired official who did get along with what was happening before he got dumped and started to tell unconvicning stories. What he'd do now is the question, and I doubt he'd do anything, but it could be funny if he could leak some another damning info of how the second Iran war goes as he had access to real data.