yet.
also, every bit helps.
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the real important question isn't whether or not they have the scale to match starlink, but rather can front line personnel rely on the ceo to not turn it off because he personally didn't like their movements
If we were to take over the entire connectivity capacity for Ukraine and all the citizens, β we wouldn't be able to do that.
Luckily, that's not needed. Let's start with covering 50% of the frontline needs.
Supplement with a terrestrial mesh network of cheap devices and you can do a lot with a little.
Starlink has a head start, but they can't rely on being first forever - they will just be one of many as early as the 2030s, imo
Until someone else comes up with a reliable reusable rocket with a high launch cadence they'll be first forever.
You just can't compete with SpaceXs' launch capabilities and cost and any competitor using them would be at a loss cost wise as starlink is at cost, and a competitor wouldn't be.
If Starship succeeds, and someone like BO succeeds in making their rocket reusable, then BO can compete with Starlink of today, but won't be able to compete with the Starlink that Starship can launch and it's the same problem again.
Hopefully someone else figures out reliable rocket reuse out, but that's what has to happen.
I hope we don't have hundreds of thousands cube sats in orbit. I'm hoping someone will standardize the hardware and different carriers can operate on the same devices much like cell towers. Otherwise we're gonna have a mini dyson sphere of trash.
We will need bigger rockets for bigger satellites if you want multiple providers to add their own antennas to the same satellites and provide enough bandwidth.
Another option would be some world entity managing the singular satellite internet, and everyone becomes a virtual network operator on that network like a MVNO on the cellular infrastructure. So one set of standard infrastructure. 1 antenna for everyone not 5 antenna for 5 companies.
You end up with a law that says the person running the hardware can't run the services. I wish they'd pass laws like that for our land based infrastructure.
Yeah, I'm talking about building out option number 2.
That's how fibre rollout happened in New Zealand, electricity is on the same model. lines company is separate from the isp and charges and standard regulated fee. Open access for ISPs to compete on speeds and service
You guys are damn lucky your government was able to make it happen that way. Kudos! Wish we had that.
Valid concern, and still more it's one of the problems the current global political situation is only equipped/incentivized to worsen.
For that situation to change, Musk's name has to be made into a byword for downfall and defeat.