I mean, it’s always been this way on the internet. Somewhere in the mid to late 90’s, a language and communication program (http and web browsers) became very popular and synonymous with “the internet.” But us old farts remember when Usenet, gopher, ftp, fsp, irc, etc. were all used daily. As the World Wide Web enshittifies, people will either stay or move elsewhere, just like they always did.

The real question in my mind is more akin to the movement between physical networks - such as when we moved away from bbs, to college proprietary connections, and ultimately to the internet. I often wonder why - with all of the portable WiFi radios we all own - why hasn’t anyone created an encrypted protocol and software where we all join our personal hardware into one big giant mesh network? I don’t even live in a city in an apartment and I can pick up 4 neighbor’s WiFi signals, never mind all the cell phones and whatnot passing by my house. You’d think we could have an encrypted and robust way of sending packets to each other by now over our personal private hardware (albeit slow and probably prone to buffering as nodes move in and out of connection range).

Oftentimes I think that’s the next frontier.

I urge users to become participants and contributors. As Kongar has written, we have access to sophisticated hardware, but we're not deploying it. If mobile-computer operators contributed to a mesh-network we'd be in a position to discard subscriptions for telecommunications access. Before this can happen the expectations of users needs to shift from contributing capital (paying for a mobile plan for instance) to contributing resources: running voluntary software on their machines.

The requirements needed to participate in mesh-networks are not just technical knowledge. If a user deployed a program like Briar they'd notice something rather swiftly: participating in mesh-networks demands more resources than not participating. The most obvious effect of this is that the mobile-computer's battery will drain faster. Carrying a spare battery seems to be common already and that's without participating in a voluntary mesh-network. The users' expectations would need to shift before they could adopt such software.

I'll refrain from commentary on Apple's iOS (though I expect it to be similar), but Google's Android is hostile towards user-software that needs to run constantly in the background. It will terminate those programs, even if the user has granted it 'permission' to run in the background.

Desktop and laptops provide a much more fertile environment in comparison. It is the norm to have long running user-programs. Even commercial operating-systems do not find anything amiss because it is the norm here. For the user in such an environment I do not see any possible objection to running such programs other than an increase in data usage, but even then these programs often allow for deployments that have a fixed quota.

Why then do we not see mass adoption of software like i2p, hyphanet, GNUnet and so forth? I exclude tor because it reinforces the status quo that must be changed. It allows its users to exit the tor-network and access the web. It's a good technical precaution against network surveillance, but the majority of that network's userbase want to exit the network. To contribute to the tor-network is to run an exit-node and that is not financially feasible for the vast majority of internet users. It is not democratic, but exclusionary and elitist. User-contributed nodes that run on the hardware they have, with the data connections they have, will see their nodes deprioritized in routing if not outright dropped. The other projects I've listed do prioritize peer-to-peer communication whilst tor's network has just become a way to access the web anonymously. I2p is technically superior to tor's for in-network communication; it supports tcp and udp. You can torrent within i2p's network. You can not torrent in tor's: you lose udp.

In my eyes the major issue of the current 'web' is the rent-seeking economy that upholds it. Technically we all have the tools to self-host a blog, e-mail, lemmy instance or whatever it is you want to share. We have a glut of cpu-capacity, storage and bandwidth. The hindrance isn't in the property we own, but in the capital expenditure demanded from a perpetual rent-seeking economy that's evolved around the 'web'. Users are behind cgnats and need to rent whitelisted servers. Users aren't allocated a static ipv4 address and need to rent one. Users then need to rent domain names and before Let's Encrypt they had to pay for a SSL certificate that had an expiration date--a perpetual expense. Completely arbitrary, artificial scarcity to create an economic system of rents. It's all absurd.

Software like lemmy isn't revolutionary either. It's retroactive. It wants to shift conditions back to when web-masters had privileges. Privileges that were taken away by the new-style of business that superseded them. If you want to run lemmy you need to pay your dues to the domain registrars and whitelisted server admins. The revolutionary act is to run i2p or gnunet and do whatever the fuck you want, but once you realize Alice and Bob can communicate with one another without paying tolls to DNS registrars or whitelisted server-admins nor subjugate themselves to that third-line--the forum administrators--lemmy becomes superfluous.

Users shift responsibility to the server-admins that run the lemmy instances they interact with. In exchange they give them all their content. That content has value. Lemmy is still a value extraction mechanism because everything on the 'web' has devolved into economic rent-seeking. To exist on the web is to participate in that system. It is the 'web' that needs to be ditched. Of the alternatives GNUnet is the design that makes the most sense, though it is still juvenile.

I would say that isn't going to happen, if we don't stop fighting.

I live in the European Union.

Alternatively, create your own private intranet and/or become a P2P node in something like YaCy, peer tube etc.

You can self host a lot (and I mean a lot) of what people think of as "the internet" using a busted $20 laptop and some decent storage.

I'd say you can get a really decent slice of the internet in 10-15TB of storage if you have the technical know how.

i'm actually planning on getting some big hard drives soon whenever i can afford it.

With all of this prepared, still, IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR POLITICAL ACTION

It will get worse. Harder. More inaccessible. More and more people won't be able to live in a free net, and with that, the prospects of fruitful coordination will wane as well.

And this is by design. If they make it inescapable, people rise up. If they slowly make it less and less accessible, people end up in disarray.

Going the Tor way is not a saving grace. It's a band aid.

Sincerely,

A person living in Russia, one who has already witnessed it unfold.

Good guide. Its 100% coming to this in 10 years. Or less. We will all be "criminals".

Let's start hosting the Fediverse and Threadiverse on the Tor network.

This seems very plausible. Wouldn't say I am ready but will be prepared to adapt when the time comes .

It's weird how many people mix up the clearnet with platforms.

if you tweet, I would rather you were on a different internet, or preferably on a different planet.

I already download all my media so I have offline access.

I'm honestly sick of social media. I mainly just view it as a news source, only commenting on ~~Reddit~~ Lemmy threads because its convenient to do so.

How is #4 going to work if I use Linux on my primary devices?

I2P is a fully connected network where everyone is a relay, a UDP transport exists iirc, and there are many other significant technical differences.

And if you're dreaming of significant masses moving to the shadows, you might as well dream of them using distributed solutions. Otherwise, the monsters will simply find and shutdown the hosts/servers of whatever the good kids are consuming.

There is a connection between August and freedom. Do you know what is it?

If you think you will get away with using either of those things on the internet once all that other shit happens, I’ve got a paramilitary police squad to sell you

Umm.... apart from my ARR setup and few specific apps and websites. I use Tor and I2P for almost everything.

And for doomsday scenario I've several physical books I love and won't mind re-reading until the heat death. Also I've downloaded several GBs of EPUBs I still have to get to... I think I'll be alright.

I will play dwarf fortress until the power turns off. Then I'll read books. Nothing will stop me from ignoring this fucked up world i cant leave.

They'll require isps to block anything they can't decode and force MITM SSL keys

Reticulum

The tools are already there, the change is just cost optimization. Your age, post code and your buying and traveling habits identify you anyways. I remember from "Little Brother" how they identified people with the way they were walking. Protagonist was putting some pieces of paper into his shoes.

I can't get over how fucking stupid normies are to cause this in their wake everywhere they go. The web was fine when it only had nerds on it

3 I know very little about Tor, although I am running a bridge to help out people in Iran and China. Is configuring individual apps to use the Tor SOCKS port the same as if I do it on my router (so that everything in my home network goes through Tor)?

Wut. My home network requires all traffic to go out through a VPN, and I run Tor ontop of that for most everything else.

Who raw dogs on the internet??

Fascists set up clearnet rules like that.

The problem with everyone being identified is that fascists will also out themselves because they don't find hate speech punishable online. However, they will find that it is fully punishable in the real world where their real fleshy bodies are doxxed by default.

There are WAY more anti-fascists than there are fascists offline.