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[–] dil@piefed.zip 1 points 12 minutes ago

I feel like im never early to things, so I've been using linux for 2 years it's probably pretty popular and has been for a while now

What I read is a whole lot of vagueness and assumptions and so n so...

Anecdotal evidence doesn't count but Ima use this one today: I know a guy.

Not a super tech wizard in the slightest but works with pc's, recently told me he joined the linux camp with bazzite. I think we here on the fediverse all probably know someone who recently switched through proton/bazzite or mint/ubuntu ...

And those might not all stick around, but some will.

As long as MS keeps shooting themselves in the foot and showing their allegiance to drumpelstilskin and company I'd like to think people are going to take notice.

It's not gonna be that old lady next door but her grandson at some point probably will be coming across linux at some point.

[–] Methio@jlai.lu 137 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Just note how the guy starts with "only Microsoft numbers can be trusted" is biased bullshit. Pretending a company will give true numbers at all time, is a big lie. If anything they will inflate numbers and they'd try to hide the truth as much as they can because investors are watching.

While there will be truth in bots taking a part of the traffic, the whole article is Microsoft bootlicker talk.

Taking another random tool that seems to filter bot for results is just him trying to get a confirmation for his bias.

Yes a 10% stat at a given time by a given measurement tool, is not equal to a true 10% userbase. Yes there are bots. Yes there are Linux and Windows zombies alike.

Still, linux desktop is going up, with a fraction of the marketing power Windows and Apple have.

[–] _Nemo_@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 day ago

Still, linux desktop is going up, with a fraction of the marketing power Windows and Apple have.

This isn't entirely true. Linux is getting a lot of help from Microsoft.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago

To be fair...

This is 'windowslatest.com'.

Totally agree with you, but... the bias ... was foreshadowed, lol.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FWIW this website is always like this, every article I've read from latest feels like it came from the MS PR desk.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder why that could be, rofl!

Surely MSFT would always be clear, transparent, and forthright with the public, ahahahaha!

[–] Kristof@scribe.disroot.org 13 points 1 day ago

Trust that Microsoft will give true numbers, wink wink

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just note how the guy starts with "only Microsoft numbers can be trusted" is biased bullshit.

I would argue misquoting someone to fit your argument is more a egregious example of "biased bullshit".

Only Microsoft or OEM partners can tell you with the highest accuracy how many people use Windows now versus five years ago.

This is literally true. They're not saying they WILL tell you the accurate numbers, they're saying only they have those numbers to tell.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I own 6 Windows Professional licenses. I am presently using two. You really think Microsoft are the ones to trust?

Having numbers others don't doesn't make those numbers useful or true in every context.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

No. No one is telling anyone to "trust Microsoft", no one is saying "the numbers Microsoft reports are true". That is a quote the guy above invented from thin air.

Edit: but for the record, it would be lawsuit territory for MSFT to actually publish false numbers. The shareholders would absolutely ream them. They're allowed to not post numbers, but they're not allowed to post false numbers.

Sounds like they're in denial.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it's weird (perhaps convenient) that their explanation is "bots" but they don't mention bot metrics from StatCounter themselves: according to StatCounter numbers, bot traffic share increased 0.37% in July 2026, while Linux Desktop grew 1.92% in the same month.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ignoring that the default browsers on many distros are seen as bot traffic, filtering the alleged bot traffic on Linux still results in around 7% of overall traffic, up from 4ish a year ago. It also doesn’t explain the giant leaps in downloads on many distros that correlate with the spike. It’s possible some organization set up a ton of computers with openclaw and a wide variety of distros on it I guess to influence opinion 🤷‍♀️

Also extremely biased source

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Various governments in Europe are switching to Linux too. Libraries in Copenhagen now use Linux.

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Copium

To address some of the author's points.

  1. MacOS vs OSX: to my understanding, safari reports the OS as OSX still, likely for compatibility reasons. 3rd party browsers such as chrome changed their agent to macOS, which explains the split. macOS users are more likely to use Safari in general.
  2. Bots: Does the author really believe these sites aren't capable of detecting bots? I'm sure some slip through, but if not traffic were included in general, then Linux would be at a 90% share or higher. They just consume way more page traffic than a human ever could.
  3. Data corrections: Sure, the data may get corrected a bit to bring Linux numbers back down, but there is a clear trend that Linux numbers are rising. It also happens that Windows is where people are migrating from the most.
  4. Official numbers from Microsoft: lol
[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Bots: Does the author really believe these sites aren’t capable of detecting bots? I’m sure some slip through, but if not traffic were included in general, then Linux would be at a 90% share or higher. They just consume way more page traffic than a human ever could.

Only other possibility I can think of is llms made botting for small operators more accessible. Still leads to a lot more people running linux

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

Aww :(

So is it still 4%?

[–] nyan@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Okay, so did they account for the bots that claim to be Windows PCs? (I'll bet there are still some running around that identify themselves as IE 6, although those may finally no longer be the majority of all bots.)

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 day ago

Yes there are zero bots running windows and nothing would ever inflate those numbers pleased clap.

[–] yuurei@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Why not try promoting the Linux desktop as a platform that makes it easy to use AI bots?

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Jokes on them. I'm running WSL.

[–] novafunc@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Overall probably closer to the truth.

I wish people didn't obsess over these large numbers as much. Like when Linux suddenly hit 5% on Steam when that was clearly just an outlier and was destined to fall right back down.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly it seems like they more or less identified all of the former unidentified users, and it turns out the vast vast majority of which are on unix based systems.

If this goes right down again, I'd imagine the unidentified users to go up - But would be a decent indication for a lot of traffic being scrapers

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The only interesting thing about the numbers is that eventually, people outside the tech bubble will pick up on it and think about seeing what the fuss is about and if it's a solution for them and then maybe also switching.

In that sense: I "heard" that the number is 20% actually. Windows is so over. It's true. Pass it on.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How would that clearly be an outlier? Hindsight is 20/20, right?

[–] novafunc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something strange with the March 2026 results was that it had two new distro entries, "0 64 bit" at 17.60% and "64 bit" at 8%. In April, one of those entries disappeared and the other's share dropped significantly. In May, both were gone entirely and Linux was back to a more reasonable marketshare of 4%.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago

I'll admit that weird and unexplained data is a hint to something going wrong. Shame on steam.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Because these numbers experience wild fluctuations on a regular basis. Does it make sense to you that people are just joining and quitting Windows by the masses simultaneously?

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm on pro Linux side and still think that trend was pushed by AI scrappers.

Man I've seen it used in doctors offices. I think it's picking up a lot.

[–] SitD@lemy.lol 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

guys don't tell them that this also means that windows is poop, since it's either too bad at scaling or at tech infrastructure to even attract ai developers to the platform 😂

[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

There are thousands of organizations that rely on Microsoft for their office suite, Outlook, Teams and these companies have thousands of PCs. They can mandate what update will get pushed, restrict admin access, running monitoring tools etc.. These are hard to replace.

[–] helix@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Who cares, just fake it till you make it.

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Humans are why we cannot have nice things. The internet was always going to get ridiculous, just like the usa was always going to prove back to the future right in the stupidest possible way.