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[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago

Reminds me of Microsoft killing Nokia and their new Linux phones.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 150 points 3 days ago (24 children)

"Capitalism breeds innovation."

Also capitalism:

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 83 points 3 days ago

One of the biggest lie to keep the current system in place.

Private corporations parasite themselves into R&D paid for by the government and act like they invented the fire again.

The Internet is built on FOSS and got captured to be sold back to us.

Capitalism breeds innovation just like people leave their partner when they finally have enough to be abused.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Competition breeds innovation. Commercial pressure can be one source of such competition, but isn't the only one.

Capitalism abhors competition. It breeds innovation only if it serves to eliminate competition.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Absolutely correct, Capitalism will incentivize innovation only as long as it's profitable to do so. Once a company becomes a dominant player in their industry, innovation actually becomes largely unprofitable.

We can see this play out all the time, this is why industry giants almost never try to outcompete smaller start ups by innovating their products and services, instead, they either crush them out of the market via a bunch of different methods. Or they just buy them out, kill off their IP, or if it's way better, they just brand it as their own, and usually fire most of the old staff.

In a Capitalist system, this actually creates a whole new incentive structure where start ups will try to grow as fast as possible with the sole intention of getting bought out by an industry titan, making the founders of the start up filthy rich.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 days ago

Capitalism breeds protectionism.

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[–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It’s time for other countries to create their own operating systems again

Make other countries create other operating systems again

[–] markko@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We’ve been doing it for a long time. Linus is from Finland.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 16 points 2 days ago

Currently, Linux Foundation resides in the US, though.

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 133 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And once upon a time there were more than three PC graphics card makers. The paranoid schizo US really fucked up scientific and technological progress.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They rose to the top because they were the only country that could still build things after the rest of the world got flattened in World War II. Then the rest of the world rebuilt itself so the only asset the US had left was economic inertia. They then proceeded to spend decades doing everything they could to increase the value of that inertia by using their influence to encourage policies that resulted the rich getting richer.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And when the Eastern Bloc dissolved, government owned corporations got sold off to western ones, for pennies, all to be shut down in a few weeks. If not, usually they got boycotted, because the kids finally could buy western brands, which made you look cool among your peers.

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[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

There also were more than two PC platforms (and we barely have two now; Apple was pretty close to going away too). I miss being the Atari ST guy in a circle of people who all had different types of computers. It didn’t last very long but it was way more fun.

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[–] jama211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I doubt it would've won anyway. There were loads of OS's at that time, most not having the issue of the US government intervening, and none of them won either.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Had the japenese not been spooked by the sugestion it waa a threat(which was cleared up as not being one) it totally could have been adopted nationwide, as it was ready to deploy to their schools.

And today we have BSD as the basis of Apples OS.

Microsoft has gone from say 85% market share down to the 60s now I think.

Maybe we will see a day MS loses to Linux since that hit 10% use last month, and has over 15% use in India.

MS certainly is not helping themselves win lately.

[–] jama211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could have? Maybe. Likely would have? No.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Based on what?

Are you assuming a threshold moment, would happen the same under different circumstances?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're including Android, server, and embedded numbers for Linux right?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

No Desktop only. There were articles about the 10% recently. India has been 15% for a while. Steam Deck and SteamOS seems to have given a boost to Linux adoption in the last 2-3 years

[–] charles@lemmy.charles.wiki 3 points 1 day ago

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

I cannot find a source for the 10% claim, highest I found within a minute of searching was ~7%

There are reports from March 2025 that show 2% however I did not see how that number was reached.

On Wikipedia they show 3.9%(rounded) and a giant unknown number. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

I'm convinced that it becomes much harder because every operating system has a different name for the user agent.

My speculation is that most data is just pulled from cloudflare. However I got bored at this point and only found macro statistics like Mobile vs Desktop or the browser application used.

https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage

Pretty cool information though.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 96 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That tracks.

The more I learn about American history the more frustrated I become with our species in general. Our country could be so much more livable now, but for a handful of vulgarly wealthy people who only ever cared about number going up at any cost.

And to make it worse I'm reading a biography of John D. Rockefeller, so I'm about to hate our species just a tiny bit more.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (7 children)

All of our lives could be so much better. We should stop making dystopian futuristic movies, and start making hopeful ones that help people imagine how much BETTER things could be.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 days ago

Solarpunk instead of Cyberpunk!

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Turkey tried to push Pardus (a debian based distro developed in Turkey) in its earliest days as a national OS alternative that on a proposed law would be required to be listed as an option you can choose when buyjng your computer, then Bill Gates stepped in to have talks with the government and that law idea stopped.

Currently they're on another push by having it be taught on computer lessons and forcing it on smart boards, but the effects it could've gotten back then would be crazy.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Was it because of this guy?

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 111 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Something similar happened to Slovene Iskra Triglav computer which was quite advanced for the time (capable of running three different CPUs) but then caught in between US-Soviet cold war/embargo while trying to sell them to Soviet Union.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Three CPUs with different architectures on one device sounds crazy. That's amazing.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 49 points 3 days ago (19 children)

PS3 comes to mind

Though in embedded, thats fairly normal.

I've got a $1 linux embedded SoC that has a 64 bit riscv core, a 32 bit riscv core for running realtime stuff and a low power embedded 6502 on it too because why not.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Soviets did a lot to harm Eastern Block tech. Bulgarian Pravetz was a clone of Apple ][. Nothing impressive but cheap, functional, domestically produced. Can't really be exported towards west due to blatant IP violations, but the production capabilities were good enough to produce and export hard drives.

Except the trade deal with Britain was blocked by Soviets because it was seen as a security threat, and an industry died in its infancy.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There's another future where Yugoslavia is the birthplace of a free software movement, and homebuilt PCs lower the barrier of entry to anybody with some time on their hands, with software distributed by radio and powerline until the advent of internet.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (17 children)
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[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Japan tried to walk where Terry Davis was running laps

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (8 children)

replaced the tree-structured directory hierarchy with an arbitrary directed graph.

TBH that sounds like a total nightmare

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'd encourage everyone to read the article. It paints a far more nuanced picture than the headline suggests.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Nuanced yes, but it largely being driven by a Japanese guy who wanted to sell US software and US companies who didn't want to compete by actually selling compatible hardware is no less damning

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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Is it available on the internet archive or a computer museum site to try out the UI?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 3 days ago

Japan: We are not a vassal state (no really they say this in an argument with the Japanese Communist Party).

Meanwhile Japan:

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