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They really treat Canada like a wayward US state. Good on the Canadian government to tell the US to fuck off.

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (6 children)

As a Canadian, and Albertan, I proudly agree the US government can fuck all the way off.

[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude, I'm an American and I'd have told the US to fuck off. That list is insane.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Item #1 was enough to break any deal on its own, but then the list just kept going.

[–] AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shit goes down majority of Americans will side and fight with you for you, I'd rather they just died thos administration, but we will stand with ya and fight these cunts as they try to start war if it does happen. All pedophiles must fuckin die especially spoiled orange fucks ue gonna be a piñata

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So if that’s the case why aren’t Americans gathering and fighting to get rid of it before an attempt on Canada happens?

I actually don’t know if there’d be a whole lot of resistance from Americans to be honest, I think it’ll be a heap of verbal platitude but not much else.

I hope we don’t see because I don’t count on Americans doing much. I hate to say it but yeah.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If you're talking about mass protests those have been happening. Looks like we're rapidly moving towards a progressive movement across the country too.

If you're talking about more drastic options like a general strike you are absolutely right.

If you expect a violent insurrection that's just plain unrealistic. People generally don't want to die in a war. As long as people can still scrape by, affording a place to live and food to eat, there will not be a rebellion. And don't get me wrong everything is generally unaffordable, but the majority is still keeping just above this point.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They want to force Canada to use the same farm chemicals that cause US brains to rot. No, thank you.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Canada passed a law allowing cabinet to authorize use of banned pesticides a couple months ago, so it's not like we're doing great in that area anyway.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Carney is a cunt. He's been dropping all kinds of protections in place for Canadians hoping that this would kiss Trump's ass hard enough for a deal. He got fucked.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

...he hates that Canada speaks French?

Actually no, I'm not even surprised. The fucker barely speaks English.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I keep reading comments like this and getting more convinced La Riposte is going to work.

Just launched the website today, it's not going to sell anything, ask for anything. Just encourage people to learn French across Canada as a national effort standing up to MAGA. And amplify via the media/word of mouth. Graffiti. Everything.

Nothing but upsides, costs pretty much nothing to be involved, I think the national temperature is hot enough right now.

I keep getting comments removed with the link and the site is pretty bare but la dash riposte dot ca will be the site. But it's going to be a crowdsourced thing I'm hoping.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Growing up in western Canada, I found myself annoyed in the past by Quebec's separation rattling, and didn't do very well at French class in our immersion curriculum in elementary and Jr. high ... but at this point I'd be open to trying to re-learn some French just to spite the US administration.

Hell, we should all try to learn some Greenlandic in solidarity with them!

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Or, in other words, complete surrender of Canada.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

These are beautiful images! Thank you for sharing them.

As an aside, President Pedophile and Rapist Donald J. Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files ~38,000 times.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Ah, a demand for vassalage.

Makes sense.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US really treats Canada like a wayward state. Good on the Canadian government to tell the US to fuck off.

https://monapaulsen.substack.com/p/canada-us-trade-talks-hit-a-road?r=k6me3

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Nah, that list isn't what you give a state.

It's the list of demands you'd give a colony.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If accurate that's terrible. How do you even start negotiating from that point…

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

You cant. He makes the most absurd demands knowing that no reasonable country could agree, and goes to his idiotic base and says "see!" And gladly gobble down his lies

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

You don't. You pretend the demands are a joke, and ask for the real demands. If they persist, you walk out of the negotiation.

[–] WanderingThoughts 6 points 2 days ago

You go point by point and say you could drop the demand but they have to give something in return, what are the real things you want. So they end up with giving a lot more by even agreeing to start from this list. It's not negotiating in good faith but just bullying someone in agreeing to unfavorable terms.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

holy fuck i know trump apparently doesnt do drugs but what the fuck is that choad smokin

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Bubba's pole... allegedly

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago
[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

So we’re reinventing colonialism? Cool, cool cool cool.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know a lot of those were reasons given at the announcement or shortly after. Given statements made in the past, id believe the rest of them

I'm now seeing this is the case. Earlier I read the Liberals had not yet officially released specifics, but you are correct that it lines up with a lot of what was coming out as specific concerns from various sources and generally confirmed as accurate.

Wiseman, asked to confirm that, declined to get into details but called it “broadly accurate.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-u-s-trade-talks-collapsed-over-disputed-deal-terms-carneys-envoy-says

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

trump b gone soon but so will Canadian goodwill towards our old southern friend.

[–] Madblood@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not just Canadian good will. Trump et. al. trashed our (America's) reputation and credibility worldwide during his first administration. Under President Biden, we spent 4 years rebuilding relationships and trust with our allies, at least to the extent they could be rebuilt after the shitshow that was 2016-2020. Now he's trashed it again, worse than before, and this time I fear the damage is permanent. Even if we manage to elect a sane president in 2028, the world is finding out that they can't depend on us not to elect someone who will undo everything on a whim. Eventually they're going to get tired of us going off our meds every few years and make a clean break.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After watching what’s gone on since 2010 has changed my view of them forever

Several things have been demonstrated to me, selfishness, laziness, lack of compassion, an expectation of understanding they don’t give others…a few things

I used to have a fairly high respect for them and wanted to travel there. All gone now and it’s not likely to return because I’ve seen the hand now.

I want Australia to scrap our treaties with them but our leaders are too spineless.

[–] boywar3@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If Australia's leaders try to scrap deals with the US, the CIA will just remove said leaders like they did last time

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me if they tried

Sooner or later we need to stand up to them though and the sooner the better

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

You are right to worry. One Trump administration could be overlooked as a mistake on American corporations behalf (lets admit that American voters really don't count). But a second one, that is inexcusable. The US has had a very lopsided deal in its favour with all Western countries since the end of WW2. The Americans have effectively killed that. That agreement doesn't suddenly come back with a new adminstration. Especially since every other country knows it can be facing a different Trump in 4 years.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (13 children)

If this list is accurate, that is fucking insane.

Out of all of these conditions, only 3, 4 and 5 has some sense of not being completely insane

3 is still restricting Canada so it is still insane.

4 and 5 are trying to increase US exports, therefore not strange for trade deals.

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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

The government asking you to dismantle dairy supply management:

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused about the last one. They want the Canadian government to charge sales tax on smaller transaction for cross border shoppers? Doesn't that cause less cross border shopping/tourism?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They don't want people buying products cheaper in Canada then bringing them home.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

No idea if those are real but a few of them (liquor, language laws in Quebec) are under provincial jurisdiction. Any deal done by the federal government on those points wouldn't have any value.

The US knows how provinces work. So my guess is that their plan from the start was to scrap the deal.

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