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Alleged Ice agents arrest New York City comptroller Brad Lander – video (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 22 hours ago by pelespirit@sh.itjust.works to c/politics@sh.itjust.works

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Ice agents arrested the New York City comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander at a federal building in Manhattan. He had spent the morning there observing immigration hearings and told an Associated Press reporter he had intended to accompany some immigrants out of the building. Footage of the arrest shows an agent telling Lander: 'You're obstructing'. Lander replies: 'You don't have the authority to arrest US citizens asking for a judicial warrant' as he was led into a lift

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[+] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I can't believe I have to say this, but let's not promote shooting people.

[+] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago

I completely get what your going for.

But...

You know where this road ends? You have a big mouth now, and I get it, I get it so very much but this ends with thousands if not millions of dead Americans in a civil war.

If you have any questions about how that would work out, maybe ask Yugoslavia where these roads end and if it was all worth it.

I'm not saying you should lie on your back and let them walk over you, I'm saying you want to thread this violence needle extremely careful or you WILL get more blood than you bargained for.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Because it's what the right wants. Why do you think trump sent the National Guard and Marines for 90 days? That it's not just for LA, but for the entire US? He wants violence. He wants to take over the donor state, sanctuary cities so he can declare Marshall Law.

The parade was incredibly embarrassing for him while peaceful protests happened all over the US. The protests were full of republicans. He isn't stable and everyone knows what happens to unstable dictators.

The right is doing this like a circle jerk on their platforms. Why does the left always have to be above it? The right thinks they can act however they want because they are the only side that can play the violence card affectively. They boast about it all the time. I have no empathy for dead fascists.

Edit: I'm not saying the above as mod, but as a user. Lemmy doesn't let you undistinguish yourself. I also wouldn't let the right talk about shooting the left, which I am saying as mod.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 0 points 10 hours ago

Who in the world is Marshall and what are their laws

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Serious question, but at what point does your stance change? Like, at what point does violent resistance become undeniably the path forward?

Peaceful protest can only go so far and can only achieve so much. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Never.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Appreciate the response. I'll read it through and sleep on it.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 52 points 22 hours ago

They had no warrant and were escorted by people that had jackets on that said police. Didn't democrats just get killed by someone impersonating a cop?

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Our government is arresting us citizens and I hear about it from a British news agency. This timeline is fucked up

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Lander replies: 'You don't have the authority to arrest US citizens asking for a judicial warrant'

Unfortunately it seems like they do!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 29 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

No, they don't. They've done it anyway.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

The lawsuitilarity needs to be huge.

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

And functionally, how is that different?

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 10 points 20 hours ago

No, they have the capacity to take illegal and violent actions without consequence because the administration is ensuring the rule of the law isn't applied against their shadow agents. That's the actual reality. It's actually only a matter of time before someone rightly shoots an unmarked and undeclared ICE agent to death, which is exactly the 'escalation' the tRump admin is planning for. Not sure what the Republican heads are expecting the left-leaning voters to do once violence is openly on the table and there is no other recourse to address this massive over-reach. Good luck down there, y'all seem pretty fucked.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 22 hours ago

Footage of the arrest shows an agent telling Lander: ‘You’re obstructing’.

The magic words they need to "justify" this...

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Jesus Christ