OK that's the last straw for me. I am willing to give the benefit of a doubt to people, but this is the third strike for this person. So I've asked them to move their comm to another instance as they don't align with our instance values.
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Fantastic. We can only hope that the lemm.ee team take a similar stance against this user, but I won't hold my breath.
They already posted on !fediverse@lemmy.world asking for a new instance, so I guess they know that lemm.ee won't allow it.
Just checked, from the sidebar "No bigotry"
Please explain what I've said that is bigoted? I would go .ee but they don't allow bot majority communities (I have got an exception for that but I'm checking out the options first).
Replace 'trans' with any other group, does it sound bigoted to you now? It reads like 'we can't have black girls compete with white girls because of the clear advantage in physicality' you know, the common racist talking point of old?
OK let's replace trans with another group let's use men as an example. "We can't have men compete with women because of the clear advantage in physicality" is this sentence fine?
It's just so mind-boggling to me that you can respond to my statement with no critical thinking at all. Do you not even consider the possibility that you could be wrong? I can't even process that level of arrogance.
I absolutely contemplated the the situation that I could be wrong I then went and read a bunch of peer reviewed journals on the subject including ones sent to me by people here on Lemmy. Then based on reading those articles concluded that I was not wrong.
You my friend are the one too arrogant to contemplate if you are wrong.
What clear advantage? Men and women on average have different body structures, yes. That might favour one in one sport and one in another. The blanket statement "men have a clear advantage in every sport over women" is BS.
That would be a stupid thing to say. Except your the only one who said it cos I sure as shit didn't say every.
Nice strawman.
What .ee rule have I broken? I haven't said anything hatefull. Do u enjoy silencing opinions u disagree with?
You know what? As a woman who’s had a sex change, I am so tired. I could not give a shit about this mods opinions or any of this topic from anybody.
It’s quite simply a topic that loses us support for emotional gut vibe reasons that have nothing to do with rationality. And for what?
I’ve never played women’s sports. Nobody trans I’ve ever met plays women’s sports because we’re all fucking afraid of it and always have been.
We are less than 1% of the population and of that 1% maybe 1% is anywhere near ballsy enough to even begin to try in this environment let alone having the resources to try competing on top of much more pressing matters like surgeries and hormones.
Are these people ignorant and on the wrong side of history here? Absolutely.
Have transsex people been playing sports for decades without issue and without dominating even one out of hundreds of different sports? Absolutely.
Are they just making shit up about transsex bodies based off nothing but unchecked stereotypes and ignorance because they only ever notice the most visible and non-passing ones and have no idea how many of us are stealth? 1000% you betcha.
Could whatever nuanced future issues be resolved by simply introducing additional classes according to measurable biological traits like weight or shoulder span in the few cases where perhaps one day there will be reason to? Yepppp.
Is this whole conversation actually just misogynistic control over women’s bodies that will ultimately harm quantitatively more cis women than trans women? Yep!! And they are better poised to tackle that than us when it does.
And yet? I want everybody to shut up about it because we have far more pressing issues at hand. When it comes to women’s sports the public has made up their mind and the facts don’t matter.
We’re losing access to life saving medical care, being deplatformed, and criminalized for existing in public and y’all still think this is about pointless debates over sports. The public does not have much bandwidth in their minds to spare on us & it’s imperative we get off this topic.
If someone thinks I’m a “biological male” who shouldn’t play women’s sports I don’t frankly care. As long as they don’t interfere with us building robust community organizations to ensure everybody has means to survive the Nazis in coming years, it’s fine.
Frankly they can call me a biological male all day if they want to deliver some hormones to a girl who needs them. They’d still be stupid and wrong but at least useful then.
Literally nobody in the trans community cares about this topic until conservatives discovered it was effective.
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