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Sorry to post here as someone who doesn't live in Europe, but I'm seeing something very dangerous unfold in the EU with their fascination with Orwellian methods of surveillance.

On one hand I'm glad to see that the previous proposals were defeated and some politicians still reject the idea. But this is way too persistent. Who are the faces behind this bill and what is their motivation to keep presenting it, to keep pushing for something they know will harm europeans?

I am starting to think that existing resistance is not going to be enough for the next time the bill is voted on. We need more. We need more people than just the EFF and other non-profits talking about this. This is setting a dangerous precedent that I can see the US following if it gets passed in the EU, and I'm scared because the average person doesn't comprehend the problem (and most of the time, won't care).

I had a hard enough time getting just a few family members off of WhatsApp to Signal, imagine the trouble I and a lot of people will have if Chat control is indeed passed. We need to do more.

Sorry if I missed a lot of nuance in this post - I only really follow the headlines and don't know the reality on the ground.

Thanks

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[–] Atmoro@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Without having huge expertise in this field but having witnessed many of those proposals come and go, I know the faces who advocate for these ideas are rather old and look very punchable from time to time. Safe to say they know very little of what they‘re talking about and it‘s not their own idea but that of persistent lobbyists or other shady actors.

[–] Atmoro@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

So what you're saying is that Europe still needs to clean house