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You call out Russia or China, MLs think if they regurgitate "read theory" that solves my issues with them.

You call out American liberals and how they aid fascists, you're calling a secret Trump supporter.

You say that genocide is an evil action, liberals and Tankies will defend their favorite country's actions because you're a shill for the enemy if you do.

You say America did something kinda good, you're somehow a neolib in disguise. You lightly praise the USSR, you're Stalin's second cousin as an AI.

I just don't want people harmed by a government force. Fuck me, I guess? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for applying the same morals to every politician and country, even ones I live in or slightly like.

Edit: If someone said it was annoying being an leftist and a bunch of liberals came in exusing their actions and doubling down, everyone would be singing a different tune. Just kinda fascinating.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know if Varyk's claim of your style of engagement is true, I haven't looked at your comment history, so I'll respond to what you've faced regardless of if you've attracted more disagreement than strictly needed.

Being an anarchist, and being super direct and upfront about your views, is going you get you some ire no matter where you go.

The reason is, generally speaking, you're looking through history and systems of power with a lens that makes the problems with those other systems quite glaring.

The people who have adopted those other systems and ideologies will have already accepted the cognitive dissonance that comes with them, and they're not going to take kindly to your nuanced opinion that makes them have to reevaluate their cognitive dissonance again. It's much easier to dismiss or attack you instead.

Now there are ways of softening your critiques and opinions to make them less liable to attract anger, such as adopting the Mr.Rogers style, but sometimes that can be too soft, depending on the context. You'll have to decide when that's appropriate for yourself.

Also, bear in mind that while sometimes your viewpoints and arguments will gather hatred no matter what you do, and it can seem hopeless to express your views, as though it does no good; there are many more neutral lurkers than there are people who engage with you directly, and you'll be having an outsized impact on that group just by having that counter arguement or viewpoint available for them to compare, which may unknowingly be changing minds for the better.

if we want anything to change
we've got to do it on our own
just know
you're not alone

Hahah I feel you. I completely block filtered any word to do with the israeli occupation of gaza because no one wants genuine discourse on that subject. It’s all attacks and angry.

[–] Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

tbh like, have you tried any other social media? lemmy's honestly pretty cool for anarchists comparatively, i suppose except for the fact that it's too small to spend all your tine in explicitly anarchist spaces. Yeah it's not amazing but that's pretty nuch inevitable with any large and relatively diverse group of people

[–] humblebun@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

government

You're not the right kind of anarchist

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

You’re not the right kind of anarchist

I think doing this is unkind and wasting a chance to educate a (potential) companion.

@OP When you use "goverment" instead of state, some people get reminded of american right wingers and right-wing libertarians which use that word most often in the public discourse. Most anarchist use different vocabulary like "state" because its clearer defined and because it is based on anarchist theory that goes back hundreds of years. Personally I think its pretty clear what you are talking about in that sentence and its unfair to call you "not the right kind of anarchist" because of that.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For using the word government??? What kind of crazy gatekeeping is this?