This is like if the Confederacy retreated to Catalina Island, massacred everyone there, and continued calling itself the rightful government of the entire continent afterward.

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not like that. The ROC government did not "massacre everyone there." It did call itself the rightful government of the entire China for several decades, but it has since then moved on.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's constitution has not even been amended to not include Mongolia, let alone mainland China.

And the KMT did do a number on the indigenous Formosan population.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

To say nothing of the 40 years White Terror

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Man, these days you know a hexbear without even looking at the user.

I mean this is complete baloney! You are also using the comparison to establish some kind of “evil slavers vs democracy” narrative that wasn’t in place at all in China during the warlord era. They were all equally horrid.

This is, at best, akin to a war between all states in the US after the Boston Tea Party and a communist state, let’s just pick Arizona, slowly winning the wars and forcing the remaining faction onto Hawaii. Then the socialist party forced anyone who could read, more or less, to work themselves to death in a field in the name of communism. Glory to the people!!!

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

jesus christ read at least one book about the history of the conflict you're describing before you confidently spout nonsense.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree my characterisation is far off the mark. But the poster I responded to wasn’t even in the same galaxy, so I still considered it an improvement.

Also, I’m not Jesus Christ 🤪

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So you acknowledge the fact that you don't know shit about the topic you're spouting off on but you still just assume you know better??

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They did not say that they don't know shit about the topic, not even close. They simply said their characterization is far off the marks. That means that their understanding of the conflict is far from perfect, but they absolutely do know shit about it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They didn't say they were wrong

They just said they were far off the mark

That means their understanding is far from perfect

They absolutely do know their shit

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

far from perfect can still be good.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

far off the mark

Can it be time for you to shut up yet?

To think that you saw me make fun of you for the game of telephone you played with yourself and decided to take the final translation and defend yourself with it. Way to miss the fucking point. "Far from the mark" was already cope by someone who was simply fucking wrong about what they said.

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am not going to shut up. I am not going to shut up at anyone's request. I also believe that their comment had a certain degree of truth to it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Baby brain. "What they said may have been completely false but I still feel like it's true"

Shutting the fuck up at this point isn't a request; it's advice.

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok then, advice rejected.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Shocking

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fine, I might actually take your advice. (don't gloat)

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

update to my previous comment: I decided to not take your advice anyway

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Do they make redditors in a factory or something

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree. People should take how the Chinese government and the US government treat their people into consideration.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is that plot about?

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Life expectancy— how the US government treats its people

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We've had one, yes, but what about second proxy war?

[–] randint@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well even though I do not ever want to see war between Taiwan and China, I believe that if there ever were one, the war would not be a proxy war but a war where Taiwanese are fighting for their own.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Taiwan only exists because it served, and continues to serve, US interests as a staging point for military operations against China. A war over Taiwan would absolutely see the US using Taiwan as a proxy, much as they are currently using Ukraine against Russia.

[–] realharo@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

I mean, China can just mind their own business, leave them alone, and then there doesn't have to be a war. How nice that would be.