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[–] simple@piefed.social 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

"And here's the thing — maybe it will work," she added. "Xbox has a deep portfolio. [Oblivion Remastered] was obviously a huge success, and they can continue to outsource that work to external companies and make a lot of money releasing their older games — older games from an era when Xbox knew how to build them."

Shots fired. Despite Microsoft constantly claiming Xbox is here to stay and they're working on the next console, it's very clear they're trying to transition off hardware back into Windows so they don't lose that too since Linux is dominating the handheld market. Even if they do make a new console, theyll put as much effort into it as the Xbox One.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Funnily enough though they're also potentially losing desktop users to Linux.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft is trying to make Xbox into Windows: Where 3rd parties make the hardware and then license the platform from Microsoft. It's a vastly more profitable model. Especially if they get all those end users signed up for a subscription service.

The problem is that the world thinks of "Xbox" as a console (and a specific kind of controller). To pull this off Microsoft is going to have to re-brand Xbox entirely by making people think of it more like a game-specific app store that runs on Windows and special handheld hardware. It won't be easy.

There's a bigger problem with this plan though: No real coordination with the Windows OS team. Windows on handhelds sucks. The past twenty fucking years of Windows development has been almost entirely focused on improving enterprise features with very little attention paid to end users or gaming.

Growth in Windows gaming has come despite Microsoft's investments. Not because of them. In fact, I'd argue that if it weren't for Steam, Windows—as a gaming platform—would be a fraction of what it is today.

Don't get me wrong, though! I love this new Xbox roadmap! Windows gaming has been holding back Linux desktop adoption for far too long. The latest benchmarks that show games on SteamOS vastly outperforming the new Xbox-branded handhelds pretty clearly demonstrates all that bashing of Windows by Linux nerds was deeply accurate.

It turns out that Linux on the desktop really is superior! 🤣

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So basically they're trying to do what Trip Hawkins did with the 3DO in 1993. In order for that to work, you're going to have to convince people to pay PC hardware prices first. Two issues:

  1. Third party manufacturers aren't going to sell at a loss,

  2. Sony will continue to sell their consoles at a loss, which means everyone will just buy their consoles instead.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the xbone was the last console I bought. Soured the pot so bad on what I enjoyed about console gaming. I already had a PC, but still enjoyed the couch casual sessions that seemingly don't exist, and haven't for over a decade

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

Well, everyone say hello to the $1000+ PlayStation 6.

What're you going to do, buy an Xbox? Build a PC with a GPU alone that costs almost the same?

No Xbox means Sony gains a monopoly on the console market. Unless Nintendo decides to actually compete with regular hardware again, which they won't.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Steamdeck probably tbh if they don't migrate to playstation

Budget and fits the exact needs of xbox users

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"There is literally no reason to buy this handheld," Fryer opined of the ROG Xbox Ally. "

You want access to games or services that are either better or only available on Windows without having to deal with the desktop Windows interface. That is literally the reason to buy it. Game Pass and popular live services can woo plenty of people over.

Gotta say, from the few times I've come across her channel, she seems like a shit-stirrer, and right wing rage baiters seem to love quoting her.

But what is the long-term plan?

To transition to a world where "Xbox" is the brand slapped across Microsoft's Windows gaming endeavors and they mostly serve as a Game Pass purveyor and the largest third party publisher by market cap.

Where are the new hits?

This one is really surprising as a question, because if you could will hits into existence, everyone would do it, but for a publisher of their size, they're doing more in recent years to create new franchises than most, even if they then lay off the team behind Hi-Fi Rush. South of Midnight came out this year; Outer Worlds 2, Avowed, and Grounded all came out of Obsidian as well as the much smaller Pentiment; and Clockwork Revolution got a sizable demo on display just this summer.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

F tier click bait. Literally nothing informative was said in here.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure they can but I think they also see the growth in the PC gaming industry as a potential opportunity to capitalize with "XBOX OS".

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[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I just assumed they hired the same person that was previously in charge of naming Street Fighter games from Capcom. I was sure the next Xbox would be named something like Xbox X 360 Series X Alpha Championship Edition with Hyper Fighting

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That'd still be better than Xbox S, Xbox Series X, Xbox One S

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I feel her pain. Seamus Blackly and Jay Allard probably feel the same.

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