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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 18 hours ago

what grinds my gears is that nintendo can do these anti-consumer practices and it's fan base will still buy it unconditionally along any mario themed $70 crap.

Me on my Steamdeck, eating popcorn while reading these headlines

[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago

Nintendo really wants to be a villain like their rivals, don't they?

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Im still getting over the fact the Wii could not play DVDs

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no! Nintendo did an anti consumer thing? No one would have thought that, better add it to the 3000 page encyclopedia of Nintendo doing this very new thing!

You'd think they wouldn't be allowed to use USB unless they met the standard's compatibility requirements (which I'm presuming exist, but don't really know for a fact). If the USB standards body allows this type of bastardization of their work, then we're going to eventually wind up right back to where we were before: a ton of differing connection standards making life a PITA for everybody.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This was the same with the first Switch wasn't it? There were no aftermarket chargers at all.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait what?

Why have a USB C port at all if you cant even charge with usb c?

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ive used the same usb c cable to charge my switch lite as i use to charge everything else works fine for me

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Switch 1 didn't have the same lockout that the Switch 2 has, but decent third-party docks took a year or so to come out for the Switch 1 which is part of the reason why they developed a reputation for either not existing or being dangerous for your system.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

Well i wasn't planning on buying a switch 2 anyway but this atleast gives me another reason not to

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I could charge mine, but it was very slow and didn't work on the dock. You just reminded me of this lol, I forget every time you need the Nintendo cable

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

So after reading a bunch of stuff on this it seems to me like Nintendo's aim here is quality control. There is a third party dock that's approved and out for the Switch 2 (and a version of it that's cheaper and literally the same product), and the Switch does a bunch of checks before it connects to test the hardware of whatever it's plugged into before drawing voltage.

Back when the Switch 1 released there was no such quality control, and third party docks got a reputation for frying your system if you used them because some of them would supply dirty voltage to the Switch when it was in its high power draw mode.

The device it's plugged into also needs a specific code from Nintendo to complete the software handshake, which is the big issue in my book. Nintendo could change the code at any time via a mandatory software update and break compatibility with your third party device, for example right before releasing their own version of whatever it is they will no longer be supporting.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Steam Deck, Ally and other such handhelds have a wide variety of third party docks available that don't have a reputation of harming the hardware. I assume if Nintendo followed the open USB C spec it would make it much easier to create third party accessories that don't destroy the system since the protocol for negotiating is straightfoward. By slapping down a proprietary layer on it that can be modified at whim with firmware updates they have just made it more likely that third party accessories will malfunction. I can guarantee you they did this so folks would have to buy first party accessories rather than quality control.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Something else I considered while reading about this is that the stories of third party docks frying your Switch 1 might be Nintendo propaganda. Wouldn't surprise me but that's pure baseless speculation on my part. Either way I agree that what Nintendo should do is just conform to the USB spec, I'm just trying to read into their motivations a little bit.