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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But keep using your wooden straws, folks. Remember that Reduce Reuse Recycle was created by the plastics manufacturing industry in the 1970s to subtly shift ownership onto the consumer. And by god did it ever work!!

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Plastic straws are not a problem because they are plastic, but because the shape + durability of plastic make them specially dangerous for fauna and hard to recycle.

Banning plastic straws was a good move. We need more of those, many more. Just because one policy doesn't fix everything doesn't mean it doesn't fix some.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 17 points 6 days ago

Ban plastic bottles.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it is time to ban plastic bottles. LOL who am I kidding. Next year it will be twice as much.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 6 days ago

The issue is disposable plastic. Like coke bottles. And all the dumb little packaging crap that comes with everything. All that cheap plastic crap. Why can’t it be cheap paper crap? I wish my online orders came in reusable canisters.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Refundable deposit systems do help with getting bottles and cans properly sorted out and recycled. (Germany does it better making single use plastic bottles a higher deposit than bottles that can be reused).

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Plastic isn’t recycled. They just tell you it is.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 6 points 6 days ago

It's heavily dependant on the plastic type. PET bottles are pretty good.

Even if it's not recycled, it's still far better to landfill or burn it than have it hit waterways.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Depends on where what and how. "Plastics" is a broad category after all.

Here's a program report from British Columbia, Canada, with multi-stream recycling and a deposit program: PDF

Where in the article apart from the title does it say that Coca Cola company is dumping plastic into the ocean. Where does the dumping happen? Why are they doing it?

[–] OwlHamster@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is it not people doing that? Why single out coca cola? If they stopped existing tomorrow, it would just be another brand of soda that people were mindlessly littering.

[–] tocano@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The company makes the plastic bottles, which don't need to be plastic, and then uses marketing to promote consumption. The people are not to blame for being exploited by the scheme of the corporations. If this company stopped existing tomorrow, I'm sure people would consume less just from the lack of advertisement.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But its still shitty people throwin their shit into nature for 0 reason

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People don't throw it into nature. You can throw it into the recycling bin and still end up in the ocean, because realistically we can't (at the very least, in a an economically viable way) recycle everything even on the best scenarios.

If we were to charge coca cola the real cost of fully getting rid of the bottle in a way that doesn't create pollution, they would likely shift to other materials that cost a bit more but can be handled better.

Now replace coca cola for every large company in the world.

[–] OwlHamster@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

What do you mean people don't throw it in nature? They most definitely do

[–] OwlHamster@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago

If they stopped existing tomorrow another company would step in and advertise just as much. This only changes with government intervention or the better but unlikely solution of consumer attitude changes towards littering.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oregon has a $0.10 ~~bounty~~ deposit on each can and bottle. Seriously encourages returning them properly.

But to be fair, it's not Coca-Cola dumping the plastic, it's Coca-Cola consumers dumping the plastic.

[–] tocano@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

It is the company's responsability for people dumping the plastic. If they made as much publicity for responsible disposal as they do for comsumption of their products, people would be better. They can also produce less or in better recipients.

[–] tunetardis@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't say I'm surprised by the push to plastics given the 25% tariff on aluminum.

[–] xep@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago

Aluminium cans are lined with plastics too. There is far less of it, though, so it's a step up.