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[–] senoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Most reliable genzedong news source. When you google A B Abrams, supposed writer of the book in question there is zero information about him other than the very questionable books he has written from very biased news sources. And there aren’t many.

Let me ask you this, what does A B in A B Abrams stand for? Nothing because they aren’t a real person.

When you google A B Abrams, one of the top results is from the “daily nk” i.e. the daily North Korea. Where we are told that the author has published under multiple pseudonyms, none of which we are told. They supposedly have multiple Masters degrees in “related fields” from the university of London. Which by the way, is not a single university but a group of different universities throughout London, so that’s even more vague. And then finally, we are told that “A B Abrams” studied korean at the university of Pyongyang. And has many contacts with people inside of North Korea.

To me, this screams propaganda, likely originating from North Korea or potentially even China, in order to make the west look bad. And you can make the west look bad without lying about the Tiananmen Square Massacre’s existence.

To deny the events that unfolded at Tiananmen Square is like denying that humans have been to the moon. It’s an unfounded, in fact, disprovable conspiracy theory.

Also, if the Tiananmen Square massacre had never happened, then why does the Chinese government continue to block any mention of it vis the firewall and censorship?

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Also, if the Tiananmen Square massacre had never happened, then why does the Chinese government continue to block any mention of it vis the firewall and censorship?

Because the purpose of the firewall is to keep the West out.

This is like asking why people who call the Civil War the "War of Northern Aggression" are censored/ignored. It's historically inaccurate and you deserve to be the subject of animus and suspicion if you do so.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To deny the events that unfolded at Tiananmen Square is like denying that humans have been to the moon. It’s an unfounded, in fact, disprovable conspiracy theory.

So prove it to us then. All you're doing right now is scolding us for being insane conspiracy theorists. I've never seen any evidence that anything happened at tiananmen square. Reports from people who were actually there all say that there was no massacre

The US has a very long history of lying about its enemies. There are plenty of declassified CIA docs that talk about what lies to tell the media. Why is this one different?

Edit: also, see pen names. Isn't it a little hypocritical to call us conspiracy theorists when you come to the conclusion that the book was lies written by China or North Korea because you can't find any information about the author?

[–] senoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can’t prove it to you, I just use my skills at googling “A B Abrams” to conclude that this is untrustworthy. I also can’t prove that the moon landing happened or that matter is made of atoms, doesn’t mean they are false.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

See my edit. But here's the thing. We have video of the moon landing and rocks from the actual moon. That's solid evidence. We have plenty of evidence of the atom existing, because half our tech wouldn't work if they didn't exist.

Where is the evidence of a massacre at tiananmen square? Please read the links I gave you.

Edit: please remember, you said that this was an easily disprovable conspiracy theory.