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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 122 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Outlook (new) (a webversion in a wrapper, so it only has half of the functions, but they force you to use it while planning to deprecate the proper version)

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But it comes with new features too, like an ad at the top of your message list every time you open it! We should consider ourselves lucky that they're giving this to us for free!

/s

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The moment they made me jump through hoops to use the old mail app instead of using the one with ads is the moment I switched to thunderbird.

I plan to switch to Linux but I am very busy right now and installing a new OS onto my PC isn't something I can do.

Take your time. The penguins will be there for you, when you're ready.

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[–] mrmhm@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except the Windows version of Outlook (New) doesn't work with all of their data centers - but the web version and Mac version do - because they didn't fully write out the authentication framework for high security tenants so you're forced to use Outlook (Classic) until they "eventually" update it.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, bring back waterfall development cycles...

They we awful and failed a lot, by at least we didn't have zombie failures being used!

[–] dovah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Deploying incrementally doesn't need to mean releasing incrementally.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

That's a great point , but even the degenerates in the windows and office teams make an absolute mess of things and tend to prioritize BS cosmetic changes over actual improvements as a result

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Hey, that's a Google move!

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[–] LilDumpy@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)
  • Outlook (newest)
  • Outlook (even newester)
  • Outlook (okay, for real, actually the last one, we promise)
  • Outlook (okay, just one more, this time we fixed all the bugs)
  • Outlook (okay, so turns out a few people decided to take the last versions name as a challenge and they kinda a little bit deleted our production server, but we plugged that hole, so should be fine now)
[–] konalt@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Outlook_New_Final_FINAL_2025_FINALREAL (1) (1).rtf

[–] myedition8@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Outlook (latest newest newer new final definitive edition v2.0)

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[–] m0stlyharmless@lemm.ee 40 points 1 month ago
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What about the inevitable (based on years of development experience):
Outlook (new) New - Final - 2025-04-17 - THIS IS THE ONE.lnk

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

Outlook (new) New - Final - 2025-04-17 - THIS IS THE ONE_final_b_v2.lnk

[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Think that pisses me off the most is how you can't uninstall it. First of all, I don't even really need a mail app on my computer. If I do, I'll install one I actually want to use.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Look I hate windows too but every app featured here can be uninstalled. The real shame is you can't add a signature to meeting invites correctly unless you copy/paste won't manually, focused inbox, you can't move a message to a different folder from the message view pop up, as far as I know the add-on center is gone and so is the VBA scripting, its just garbage and Outlook Classic (hey MS look thats how you rename shit) was actually decent. Thunderbird is superior to both tho.

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[–] vodka@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My team at work is always confused when I ask if they're using Outlook or New Outlook (new) New

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you say Teams at work? Did you mean New Teams or Classic Teams? Did you want to swich back to Old Teams or stick with Current Teams? Or did you mean the Teams feature within Teams?

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do we still associate these changes with Gates?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Marketing gives you more fame than inventing

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[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 month ago

The newer it gets the less functionality it has.

[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FFS Microsoft, just put out a functional OS. I even really liked the Windows 11 Beta/RC, but what it became once commercialized got me to switch to Fedora on my main PC and swear off getting another Surface.

[–] albert180@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

IBM has entered the chat

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The basic Mail app in Windows 10 is still the baseline I compare every other email client to, and I've yet to find anything I like as much. Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, it only ever ran under Windows, and for stupid reasons, it was deprecated and now if you try to launch it, it exits and launches Outlook (New), which is a horrible email client.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Outlook (new) is not even a "mail client" at all. It's an Edge "webview" web app. Adding an account to this "app" actually allows outlook.com the website to sync your entire mailbox, read its contents, and "share" all of that data with their (last checked, could have changed since) 798 "data partners".

Install Thunderbird.

Before someone says "it's not pretty enough, I don't like it", if the price for privacy is a shiny theme, I've got nothing dumb enough to say to you. You're beyond helping and you're not worth my time.

Edit ^ that last bit wasn't about you, person I responded to, just realized it sounded like it was.

[–] panicnow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My 86 year old father-in-law has had the roughest time with the new outlook. It keeps losing his settings. I kept him on the (old) outlook as long as possible.

I tried Thunderbird for him, but some parts of the UI don’t respect extremely large fonts. Sigh.

My current solution is just straight up web mail to his provider which has other problems, but I have sorta-kinda mitigated them by installing a separate browser that is set to open that website. This has some other small problems, but it will have to do for now.

I honestly wish Apple made a 20” iPad.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a help desk worker this shit is so fucking annoying.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Oof hell desk, yea I left that behind as fast as I could. It was nice and all being chill not worrying about budgets, policies, "IT business alignment" and such

But god damn if I had to deal with Beatrice's weekly hour+ password reset call one more time I was going to lose it lol

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meh, I'm gonna wait for Outlook Mail (new)

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Outlook Mail Final (v2) (new) (work)

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

Old is called classic.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My Outlook still has the yellow icon. Changed it back manually because I kept opening Outlook by mistake when I tried to open Word.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

2meirl4meirl:

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

On windows the only decent mail client is Thunderbird.

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity

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