When you build infrastructure that requires you take cars everywhere you minimize people going to get things for themselves
this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2025
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Just walk and buy the stuff. In a way, I miss how before apps, places just had two or three delivery guys
Related video; "Why Convenience is Killing Us" Levi Hildebrand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpe8te3PdkA
Just walk? Okay, I can do that if I want... Subway. 22 minutes. That's fine. The next closest place to eat is FOUR HOURS there and back just walking. That is not a universal solution in the US.
You're 100% correct and it's very appropiate that we are discussing this in c/fuckcars .
If you live in midtown high-rise shit, you will pay $20, and waste 4 hrs of time and energy, now your kids crying and fiance fighting with you to not why just pay $30 and order delivery instead. It's 200% not worth it but also means this shitty urban planning that priorities corporal revenues on its residents expense should change. Look it up btw even local restaurants suffer; The only winner here is Uber eats.
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Agreed, I miss delivery being associated with a restaurant. There was better accountability.
But I also live in a walkable area, so it's easy for me to say 'just walk'.
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Some people have food delivered because they have disabilities. Some have deliveries because they are under influence of alcohol or medications.
First time I ever had Burger King delivered was in Bahrain. That was in 2005. The U.S. didn’t start across the board deliveries through apps until about 2015ish. If I recall correctly. It is expensive no doubt.
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Ok, but like if I pick it up, then I'm driving both to the restaurant and from the restaurant. Is it not more efficient to have 1 person that drives between all houses to drop off food from a single collection point as opposed to all houses using their vehicles to drive both to and from the restaurant?
I mean if it isn't more efficient, then why doesn't everyone pick up their own mail from the post office?
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NYC tipped worker minimum wage is like 13 an hour. Not that The food delivery services are paying minimum wage ...
In one of the most expensive cities in the world, an on-demand courier is not going to be cheap. Even if they're on a bike.
What we're actually suffering from is that the cost of business and minimum wage has increased but the middle and upper wages have not. That, and the delivery services are a bit out of control. They're taking $10 out of every transaction to connect a web page to a mobile app.
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this is some quality ragebait right here
Well, sometimes youve had a few beers, then really want some Taco Bell. Better to door dash it than to go driving while tipsy. The service charge is really a 'failed to plan ahead' charge.
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The cost of eating out alone is ridiculous now. There's no way I'm paying an additional $30 to have it delivered, and risk the delivery guy eating half the order, having it arrive late and cold, or not showing up at all.
What do you want to me to do instead? Cook myself all the time? Go outside? No thank you.
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The delivery services are a boon and a bane for everyone. For the restaurant, you no longer need to pay wages or insurance for dedicated delivery workers, but now have service fees that cut into profits. The customer has to cover many of these costs in all these extras fees and service charges, but get did delivered to them. And the driver has to pay for gas and insurance out of the pitiful payments and tips they get. If you are in a rural area, forget about getting enough local orders to cover anything.
None of us need to purchase this goofy ass delivery powered by virtual slave labor. Spend no money, cause no harm. Let those capitalists seethe we no longer need to endlessly consume to be happy.
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