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I have been looking for an email client on Linux after being tired of Gmail and Outlook web clients.

I had Thunderbird installed on my system and thought I'd give it a spin. I set up POP for my email accounts and it worked fantastic... For a total of 2 hours, after which I realised that searching in Thunderbird is simply not going to work for me. I need to search by attachment name and sometimes even by text inside attachment and unfortunately Thunderbird can't do that (I think I tried an extension too but it made the UI super clunky to the point that I couldn't even understand how to navigate it anymore).

Does Betterbird or any other email client fix this problem? I'm willing to try other options if they are FOSS.

Thanks

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[–] bluefishcanteen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I have had the exact same issue as you. Thunderbird is great, but their attachment search is not. I spent a lot of time looking for a way to make it work and what I settled on is using a third party program to serve this function: Recoll (https://www.recoll.org/index.html).

It should be available in your distro's package repository.

You'll need to download your messages to your computer, but it will work in the way that you expect search to work (I.e. search by filename, search by text within attachments, search by text within emails). Setup is straightforward. You just need to point it to the Thunderbird profile directory where your emails are saved. As a bonus, you get good desktop search for all the other files on your computer too.

Sadly (don't throw anything at me), the only desktop email program that I have found that does search properly is Outlook desktop. On Linux, that is obviously a non-starter.

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[–] tiny@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use evolution and it works well for everything besides my work Gmail but that has more to do with security policies than evolution

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

I was pleasantly surprised with Evolution the last time I tried to use Gnome, it used to be a buggy, bloated mess. But alas, I can't manage to use Gnome for more than a release or two. Now I'm looking for a decent Wayland native alternative to Thunderbird, but it just doesn't exist without DE bloat at this point. Maybe someone will build a modern replacement for Sylpheed/Claws.

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I learned about mutt ~12 years ago, and it changed my email-interface forever

all mutt, all the time

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hows the search fuction in mutt? For eg, if i want to search an email thread from like 3 months ago, does it function well or do I need to open my broswer....

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

It works great. I never open a browser to search for mail: http://mutt.postle.net/searching/

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How has your experience been with Mutt? I've heard about neomutt from a lot of people but I'm honestly a bit intimidated to move to a completely CLI-based email client especially because it's another configuration file which I'll need to be mindful of

[–] a14o@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Where indexing and searching mails is concerned, notmuch is the best I've seen. Do note that this is not an e-mail client, it only indexes, tags and searches (following the "UNIX philosophy" of doing one job well).

I personally use it with neomutt as a mail user agent, which is almost certainly not what you want. Notmuch supports other clients but they're all pretty arcane.

So this is not a recommendation, just a glimpse into advanced e-mail setups I guess.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

this is one of the things that struck me about email clients on Linux – CLI and GUI clients have followed two very different evolutionary paths – the CLI clients went for the “doing one job well” path (where you end up assembling a whole system of apps for sending and receiving email) and the GUI clients went for the “everything and the kitchen sink” path (where you end up trying to hide half the options so they don’t get in your way)

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've always liked Thunderbird. Geary is also nice. Not sure if it can attachment search.

You can filter messages with attachment on Thunderbird btw

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes but I can't search by the name of the attachment. Unfortunately that's a deal breaker for me. I need it to search the Content-Type field at the very least and I don't think it can do that without an extension

[–] trk@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes but I can’t search by the name of the attachment.

I just searched for text thats in an attachment filename and it worked - with a caveat. I have a filename called "PMASUP236 - Operate Vehicles In The Field.pdf" on an email. There is no reference to the PMASUP236 in any other part of any email.

If I search "PMASUP236", it returns the email as a result.
If I search "SUP236" it does not.
If I search "Operate Vehicles" it returns that email (along with a heap of others containing the word "Operate" and "Vehicles" in any order).

Admittedly this is on Windows at work, though I do run Thunderbird on Linux at home. Will have to try it there to confirm.

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Please do. I'm on Debian and it didn't work for me

[–] trk@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I just checked on Linux (Thunderbird 128.5.2esr, Opensuse Tumbleweed) and the behaviour is the same.

If I search “PMASUP236”, it returns the email as a result.
If I search “SUP236” it does not.

This is using the normal search function (top of screen in current version). Quick Filter does not look at attachments at all by the looks. The "Attachments" toggle is only a has / does not have attachment filter.

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I see. Is there a way I can use regular expressions to search? I.e. "SUP236"?

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If you're on Debian Stable you might have a version of Thunderbird that doesn't have this feature, since software there is a bit "outdated". Next stable (trixie) releases in few months though.

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That might actually be the case. I am indeed on Debian stable. Thanks

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Why not install the Flatpak and get it now instead of waiting 3 months?

Is this using Quick Filter or Classic search?

[–] bund@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

maybe evolution is what you’re searching for

[–] mintberrycrunch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Geary or Mailspring are the best options. Neither is perfect. I lean toward Geary.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I used mailspring for about 6 months because I love the idea and it looks beautiful. But when you check the forums you see people are complaining about major bugs that seemed to remain unfixed for eternity, developer never comments.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Buggy as hell 😐

[–] unknown_user@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago
[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Claws searches reasonably quickly and unlike thunderbird it isn't a total resource hog. OTOH it suffers from not being multi threaded, which means when you first install it, expect it to take literally hours before it finishes syncing all your emails.

Mutt is not multi threaded either. Only thunderbird and kmail are, and kmail is a buggy mess, while thunderbird eats your ram like it's a plate of cheese danishes.

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've settled for using Thunderbird for POP + Recoll for search. I can't believe how good Recoll is; in my opinion this is even better than Gmail's search in their Web GUI. I will be using Recoll for a lot more things now, but my immediate need for search has been fixed for now. Though running Thunderbird just for downloading emails does seem a bit overkill. We'll see

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

If it works, it works -- glad you found a way

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I use Betterbird as my main email client so I tried out the attachment searching. Searching by attachment name seemed to work well, but it doesn't look like it searches for the text within the documents, at least not for PDFs. Not sure if there's like an OCR extension or anything that would do it, but yeah just the base Betterbird install doesn't do it as far as I can see.

[–] ndupont@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Why not Roundcube ?

[–] wwwgem@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You may find what you need here or there.

Like @a14o@feddit.org I would personaly recommend the power of neomutt and notmuch, but it's not a GUI option if that's what you're looking for.

[–] databender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

nmh is the way

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