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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 288 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

It is not age verification.

It is privacy invading, morality policing, de-anonymizing, state surveillance.

Nothing less.

PS. If you want to download a video from a site that doesn't have a download button, use the Inspect feature (right click on the page, not the video, and click inspect)

*On the Network tab - Sort by size. Reload page. Find the video. Open the video in new tab. It will be just the video. Right click and save as, or click the download button, or click the 3 dot menu button and select download.

On Firefox you can often bypass this entirely by shift + right click. And should see a save video as option. If not, the inspect feature works the same.

For hls/TS videos (m3u8 streams), if you reallllly want, you can copy the link for the stream and use VLC to convert the stream to a file.

This also often lets you download at higher resolution than they offer to download.

Yes, I porn.

*forgot Network tab

And thanks for all the suggestions. I'd rather not install browser plugins if I can do it without. CLI tools are cool though. The less I need to install the better.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 55 points 1 week ago

Shout out to yt-dlp, the absolute unit of software beneath lots of media scraping tools.

You can also use MPV Video player, should be able to play many URLs you throw at it.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Its easier to just sail the torrential high seas and get that 4k h265 quality shit that sites keep for paying members only. Once you know the models name its easy to get their entire collection.

I professionally pron too.

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[–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

yt-dlp is also insanely good for this - just install it, point it at the URL and it'll usually figrue out how to grab the video without any fuss.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 167 points 1 week ago (25 children)

I legitimately dont understand who supports this. Who are these parents that can't parent their kids properly? It's so incredibly easy these days.

So instead of handling shitty parenting we restrict adults and with surveillance. Make it make sense.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 105 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who supports it? Fascists. It’s about controlling access to information and robbing the populace of privacy at the same time. An oppressive, authoritarian police state needs tools to maintain control. These are the tools.

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[–] subignition@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are SO MANY parents that are not willing to teach and monitor their kids online safety. I would even say most parents don't take that responsibility themselves.

[–] fucktrump@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Totally in agreement. I think a bigger part of the issue is most people are completely tech illiterate. People can’t tell a computer from a monitor anymore and then we expect them to outsmart a kid with nothing better to do than stare at a screen for hours on end who will no doubt figure out ways around things. There has to be some feeling on the parents part of defeat. If only the politicians knew what the fuck they were doing we might get actual regulations for engineers to implement proper controls. The percentage of parents attempting to monitor their children appropriately while also having enough tech knowledge has to be low.

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[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Age verification has it's place online, but not for porn. That is just gonna push peopel to worse sites.

For gambling and stock market sites and the like I can understand it, but I would prefer if we wouldn't need to send our ID to those sites. Heck if Valve would implement it I could actually gamble on steam again cause currently I cannot open a Tf2 crate ...

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Faacists do

[–] ilovecheese@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the parents that wont face the fact that it's them paying for their kids internet access.

Parents intentionally and deliberately pay for their kids to access this shit. But none of them want to accept that when it can all be someone elses fault.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If it makes you feel better, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.

Because these regulations never do.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I still remember when social networks tried to impose a real name requirement.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This isn't about being "age-checked". It's about IDing everyone on the internet and tracking where they go and what they do.

The world we live in is far far worse than anything from 1984.

No, 1984 is way worse, but what we have is still awful.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Since the earliest days of the internet, governments have been scheming to gain control over the dissemination of content - to have authority over what people can and cannot see.

Autocracies like Russia, China and North Korea simply established censorships regimes, but the best that western governments have generally been able to do is ban content that is illegal in and of itself, like child porn. Their goal, all along, has been to establish systems by which to censor content that is not in and of itself illegal.

This is the most success they've had yet.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

All the big adult sites will probably just die or at least shrivel in popularity. Most Europeans simply will not use whatever "tell Brussels or London where or what what you are watching" option is. In the place of the big sites there will be a billion shady and likely virus-lottery proxy sites whose only selling point is that they do not do age checking or require registration. Those then get occasionally smacked down by Brussels, just to be replaced with 10 more clones the by the next week. On the side piracy and vpns will thrive. Kids will not be protected nor will people's privacy, quality will be worse.

I would also bet that when the landscape decentralizes there will be a lot more cp, revenge and peep-videos and other illegal shit in the mix that will get through through the cracks since massive established sites had to actually fear shutdown and losing all revenue unless they had robust gatekeeping mechanisms. If Brussels wants your 2 month life-expectancy site dead anyway, because of it's only selling point of having to show id, then why really bother with the quality control of the material. Especially if site holder has no personal qualms about that stuff.

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[–] queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

these laws are all about control and tracking what you do online. they make the internet MORE dangerous, because (as with everything the government restricts or bans) there will be a black market, which is always more dangerous and exposes people to more things than they were looking for in the first place. you think dark web providers are gonna make you upload your id to stay compliant? no, they’re gonna continue anonymously operating through TOR and serve up some very questionably sourced content to those teens that are searching “boobs” and can no longer access pornhub

[–] G4Z@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck it, let's get back to something like the way it was.

Anonymous, amateur, just slightly hard to access to keep the mouth breathers out.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I really, really dont want to search for porn on the dark net...

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will not be participating. I'll get around any barriers they put in place.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And if I can't, I'll just stop using the internet for anything I don't absolutely have to.

I don't really need my smartphone. A laptop will do.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago

I'm sure some countries will gladly setup VPNs for accessing this stuff even when all other countries block adult stuff.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (8 children)

See, there are a few ways this could go.

  1. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.

  2. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.

  3. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.

  4. Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.

  5. Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.

All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or all of the above while still not being "as secure and private as promised".

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel like people are downplaying how dangerous even the possibility of #2 is. A lot of nations are already targeting the LGBTQ community on a regular basis and this would massively assist to streamline persecution of "certain" citizens as well as the rapid spread of religious dogma. Both the U.S. and Australia are current testing grounds for these outcomes.

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Age-checking is just a backdoor to force everyone on the internet to identify themselves. Nobody cares about the kids, they care about purging the internet of political dissent and opposition.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Governments like everything and everyone in their own little stack and in the government's self established status quo. When Paula Protester comes along with her LGBTQ++ agenda, governments don't like that. Paula Protester represents instability to the status quo established by the ruling class. Governments don't like instability. Governments like everyone sorted, coallated, and stapled, all in their respective stacks, so dissidents and social change advocates are viewed as adversaries and are not welcome.

If it's genuuinely 'for the chirren' then it would seem to me that making parents be parents and take responsibility for their child's actions would go a very long way. However, we make laws with the lowest common denominator in mind. I don't want your children involved in adult activities online. However, just like any education program, the success is determined by parental involvement in their child's daily lives, and it starts at home.

It's a lot easier to make government responsible for the child's developement, than actually requiring parents to be parents. I hear parents say 'I'm not technologically inclined.' Well, get there. The safety and well being of your child hangs in the balance. Take a class, read some of the millions of step by step tutorials that exist all over the internet. Ask some questions in forums. The possibilities are endless. Protecting your child is work, just like rasing them is work, and therein lies the issue.

[–] thirtyfold8625@thebrainbin.org 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a global wave of age-check laws threatens to chill speech

You’ve read your last free article.

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are allowed to chill their own speech. The government does not have the right to restrict speech, at least in the US.

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder what it was that made Pornhub cooperate this time around. Iirc in texas and france they just "left" instead of implementing the age verification.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 20 points 1 week ago

Maybe Britons are depraved porn fiends and spend so much that Pornhub can't afford to lose this market!

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[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'll make my own internet... with blackjack

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They haven't verified that they're old enough for those.

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Sucks, because it's going global and we can't seem to stop it. I'm fine with laws to age gate in terms of a button you click. If some kid is willing to say they're 15... well, let's make sure people are treating them as a 15 year old. But... making everyone deal with real verification is at best going to further entrench big business, and at worst, destroy the internet we love. And it raises the question: are trans teenagers talking to each other now creating adult content because the UK hates trans people?

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

It still doesn't have to be this way.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Haven't seen any age verification in BGP.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ok, I have already been asked to enter a credit card to verify my age on yt a few times before. It was pretty annoying, really, given how much google already knows about me.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you did this? I would just abandon the idea of seeing that video and move on with my life.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I...went around teehee (something like piped) :) I'll never give google access to any banking info, they already know too much.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] londos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the internet everyone will know you're a dog.

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[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well time to sell thumbdrives to teenagers filled with "tutorials.mp4" and "online class.mp4" lol.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

That's fine. The actual internet will still be here.

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