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By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.

As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.

That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.

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[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

I ain't clicking no substack link.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even worse, they're straight up just selling people into slavery by sending them to a literal slave labour prison in a foreign country.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Selling? They pay 25k for each individual.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The more important part:

Just before entering the Oval Office, Trump was captured in a hot-mic moment mentioned to Bukele how "home growns" should be next. He said: "The home growns. You gotta build about five more places. It's not big enough."

Homegrowns, as in dissidents. As in protestors. As in anyone with the audacity to call America what it is. And the room, apparently, didn’t flinch. No gasps, no silence. Just a few smirks and nods, maybe someone jotting it down like a policy idea instead of what it is: an open fantasy of authoritarian expansion. The kind you laugh at in the moment and implement in pieces, bureaucratically, later. Bukele shook hands. Trump grinned. Everything he says is a kind of joke. A cruel joke that becomes the reality.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago

It sounds so absurd, dystopian and even surreal that I find it hard to believe. But then again... It's the USA...

[–] nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's nothing new. I would have linked to the archive photos of Abu Ghraib prison photos, but I'm not sure it's allowed, since they're NSFW. The fact that Bukele declared that no one can escape pretty much confirms that it's an actual death camp. There are metal bunks just like the ones in Auschwitz. The prisoners are kept inside for 23.5 hours, with half an hour of exercise in the lobby. The cells claim to have 1 sq. m. for each prisoner, with 80-100 prisoners, and there is no sunlight, only 24/7 artificial light. The prisoners don't speak(allegedly), and have no clocks or reading material. Some have lost their voice from not speaking. It's impossible to keep so many people in one place; some detainees must have died eventually to make space for the newcomers. Food is scant, and violence is common.

Funnily enough, I've seen a couple of articles refer to them as 'gulags'. They aren't fucking gulags. Spreading their propaganda even when they see something this horrifying. It would be funny if it wasn't nauseating.

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well prisoners sent to gulags had to be sentenced (in poorly conducted unfair trials, but still there at leas was a sentence), this is unfair to gulags from a legal view.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most gulag prisoners were not political prisoners, they were common criminals. Most of them also got out after serving their sentence.

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Under Stalin in 1930s I dont think so. But otherwise sure, closely under half. After stalin many were released, some officially pardoned. however aspects of the great purge are relevant today, I think that the reference considers precisely the political prisoners.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

Ok but the comparison of the salvadorian prison would make more sense. Maybe its meant differently, but I thought that the reference meant that its almost 'as bad' as gulags, well there had to be trial for you to be sent there.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But it is against brown people so it doesn't count!

[–] NosferatuZodd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

username checks out

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

CECOT and the White House really enjoy publishing these images of these people in white underwear and shackles being paraded around in little formations. Like are we supposed to be impressed by this?

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

When we take this country back, we need to send random MAGA voters and their leaders in the Heritage Foundation there. I'm sure they'd love to see it in person. They'll love it so much, they can stay for life. While they're there, we can remove their US citizenship, since they won't need it during their retirement at CECOT.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They put the people with tattoos in front so it looks like it's all gang members. The people a few rows back don't have many or any visible tattoos.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

i was thinking this too. are you aware of any videos that show this?

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I haven't seen ant videos of CECOT. It's just an observation from the picture here.