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You know who 'murikkkans despise more than Trump and the Republicans? The weak ass, spineless, do nothing, stand for nothing, fqracking Democratic Party.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

What I love about this picture is if you zoom in you can tell her face couldn't have a more bored expression

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 11 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

There were over 500 other politicians who endorsed this; but I think she built her brand among those who feel particularly betrayed. And there is also a dose of misogamy, here and there.

But why do people feel so betrayed after older votes and actions should have triggered this much earlier? And will most of this go away soon?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 2 points 22 minutes ago

Hatred of marriage?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 21 points 15 hours ago

She became a strikebreaker three years ago. Kshama Sawant: Rail Workers Betrayed By Biden & The “Squad”

AOC justified her vote by claiming she was fighting “tooth and nail” for the additional sick days. Jamaal Bowman claimed he was “always fighting in solidarity with the workers.” But what the Congressional “Progressive” Caucus pulled was a con job, and a hamfisted one at that. They colluded with Pelosi to separate out the vote into two, promising their roughly 100 votes on the rotten TA in exchange for a separate vote on the sick day amendment, which they knew full well would get crushed in the Senate. It took only one day to confirm the brutal reality: that the majority of the “Squad,” in coordination with the leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, sold rail workers down the river while blowing smoke about paid sick days.

On November 30, Democratic Socialists of America’s (DSA) national center posted a statement of support for the rail workers which included this sentence:

“Any member of Congress who votes yes on the tentative agreement is siding with billionaires and forcing a contract on rail workers that does not address their most pressing demand of paid sick days.”

What then of their own members and endorsed elected officials in Congress who voted yes? What this statement implies, and what the actions of the “Squad” definitively prove, is that these elected officials are, and see themselves as, part of the capitalist state, the state that acts for the billionaires and against the interests of the majority, the working class.

A socialist cannot be a strike breaker. This needs to be the end of any pretense by DSA that the “Squad” is socialist, and should result in their expulsion from the organization. Failing that, the Squad’s betrayal of the working class becomes DSA’s betrayal.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 12 hours ago

But why do people feel so betrayed after older votes and actions should have triggered this much earlier? And will most of this go away soon?

Many still hope for the magical day when the dems become something that they structurally cant be. They love the idea more than the fact, of what these people represent. Same with Mamdani, tbh. People will be very heartbroken about him soon enough.

Too much "benefit of the doubt" is given, too much projection and power-level hiding cope and "they mean well". They long to be heard and hear screams in whimpers.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We have very few progressive voices in the government, it sucks to have them betray principles we thought they had

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They are politicians and they all get elected based on lies to their base.

AOC didn't even grow up in Bronx and campaigned hard on her being a girl from Bronx. If she was willing to lie about where she grew up, why wouldn't she spout bullshit to appeal to her constituents?

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago

AOC calls herself a Bronx girl but also as far as i can tell, always admitted that while being born in the Bronx she moved to a nearby town as a child and went back and forth regularly to see family there. I'm not from NY so maybe I'm not the one to ask, but it doesn't seem that wild that she considers the Bronx part of her personality.

I'd rather be mad at her for substantive things like this vote.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 12 hours ago

Well born in the Bronx. It's not technically a lie, but it's misleading. Cozying up with Mama Bear Pelosi says it all, though.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wait we have at least one ? A real one?? Where??!

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Anytime you send weapons to theocracies, people die. Religions are never happy with what they have, because a fictional god gave them the entire world. So they fight, kill, and die for their fictional gods.

NEVER send weapons to theocracies.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The problem with Israel isn't Judaism. Israel doesn't even follow the Halakha. Israel is a racist settler colony most similar to Apartheid South Africa. Without religion you still have politicians in New Zealand attempting to pass racist laws.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

This might destroy you from the inside but Israel is an Atheist state. The only Judaism they believe in is being racially descended from Jews.

https://vridar.org/2017/05/26/we-do-not-believe-in-god-but-he-nonetheless-promised-us-palestine/

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That post was nine days ago… coincidence?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 13 hours ago

The hypocrisy of that instance is stunning.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Incivility? I've never seen that from this user. Nor whining and complaining in lieu of self-validation or self-reflection. In fact, the time we got into a conversation about pogroms, I found them extremely respectful and informative, as well as in good faith.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Same, I liked geneva. He's modding the "europe" sub on lemmy.ml.

https://lemmy.world/c/europe@lemmy.ml

subscribed. Maybe its a good thing to see patterns of threads where mods pull this stuff. We know where to unsubscribe.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

AOC is trying to whip up funds for when she runs next election. I'm not too thrilled that she voted against cutting funds for Israel weapons. What was she thinking. So dumb, and felt like a betrayal.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

She voted against reduced funding for weapons for Israel because she would have been voting FOR funds for weapons for Israel. If she had the option to eliminate funding of weapons for Israel completely she would have supported that.

Years from now people could look back and say "AOC in 2025 voted to supply Israel with XXX million dollars of weapons while they were in the middle of destroying Gaza, and attacking Syria and Iran."

Would you really vote to supply weapons to Israel at this point in time?

[–] yourebrainwashed@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 hours ago

Americans democrats act toward democratic politicians like a domestic abuse victims acts toward his abuser.

Yes i know your ex is worse. Yes i know we don't know them like you do. I'm sure they cried after they gave you your third black eyes this month.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

AOC's own statement expressed that she opposed eliminating funding of weapons to Israel.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

She voted against reduced funding for weapons for Israel because she would have been voting FOR funds for weapons for Israel.

Thats not what I read about what she claimed were her motivations. She said she voted against it because she was in favor of giving them defensive weapons, but not offensive ones. As if the money to buy weapons wasnt easily moved from one to the other. Weapons are weapons.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

"Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it"

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Yeah... Now post the rest.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

So what did it cut off?

And why did four "progressive Democrats" vote for it?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -5 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Yes, let's make this about the most progressive figure in the conversation, and not the supermajority of conservative bastards who openly want civilians dead.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 minutes ago

It's called party discipline. 🙄

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

If these are the progressive reformists, then it's probably time to realize that status quo won't change if them or DSA were magically put in charge. They're still part of the ruling class and have their interests, the only way to achieve actual change is via workers themselves organizing and making change happen - that's the actual role of the left, not praying that some kind capitalist candidate brings about change for them (they won't as seen historically).

But at the same time, workers aren't likely to "have enough" and organize on their own, instead opting to keep clinging onto this false hope and keep rallying behind "least bad" option, so the situation is abysmal.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

Yes because the progressive movement are the ones supposed to not support genocide. If they pretend to represent the left then they will get blasted extra hard for acting like a neo Nazi.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 hours ago

I care about the most progressive force in the US Senate about as much as I care about the least genocidal Fr*nch soldier in Algiers